@vox

Trolling again? Well, i haven`t expected anything else from you.
That is your level of communication here. Good luck with PPC ;)

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@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @damocles Quote: How much did Hyperion pay for the name Amiga OS again? 8 years of hard work and dedication, more than 1 milion EUR in to the development of the OS and some royalties to Amiga.Inc of course (in accordance with the November 2001 Agreement).

And where is AOS 4 now? Where are the applications? Who uses it professional ?

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@sundown

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sundown wrote: @eXec Quote: Well, this hardwarecomes from the resurrected Mother Company. Mother company my butt... You can steal names, but you can never replace the original Commodore company.

If C=USA stole name... than according to that logic Hyperion has stolen OS4 license..

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@eXec

Stop pretending to be stupid. Claiming that the Barry Altman show is actually the resurrected Commodore with millions spent on a proper R&D department, many highly skilled technicians on pay roll etc, while having Dammy as the webmaster, is plain stupid and/or trolling. Not even Loriano made such a fuss for a ####ing case (because nothing else comes from Commodore) and he designed better.

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@eXec

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And where is AOS 4 now? Where are the applications? Who uses it professional ?

At least you can buy and use it - NOW.


It is question of priorities. If you want to buy Amiga branded computer for Linux, why not. My demands are little bit higher. I would rather buy overpriced and underpowered X1000 with very limited software base than some "generic" PC with Linux. You can´t search logic or any reason in it - Amiga is not only computer, it is passion.

@damocles

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damocles wrote: he paid for a license fee and for @ unit sold

Maybe I'm just being a little anal, but what does that mean? And it's not the first time I've seen someone use the @ symbol incorrectly on here recently...

Sorry, it's the little things

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@eXec

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And where is AOS 4 now? Where are the applications? Who uses it professional ?

I do.

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@eXec

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eXec wrote: And where is AOS 4 now? Where are the applications? Who uses it professional ?

I do too..
as far as I know, there is ACube and Ferrule media, I guess Rigo, Hyperion, Simon and the Frieden Brothers do to.

I hope you are not going to complain and compare about quantities against Microsoft now...no, I think you are not, and not that silly, the burkina faso saw seems still firmly working at the balls and has yet to get to your brain... ;)

edit: typo

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Amigo1 wrote: @eXec Quote: eXec wrote: And where is AOS 4 now? Where are the applications? Who uses it professional ? I do too.. as far as I know, there is ACube and Ferrule media, I guess Rigo, Hyperion, Simon and the Frieden Brothers do to. I hope you are not going to complain and compare about quantities against Microsoft now...no, I think you are not, and not that silly, the burkina faso saw seems still firmly working at the balls and has yet to get to your brain... ;) edit: typo

:) I would also like to use it professionally but there is nothing in hd video/audio
what is worth of even looking at!

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New Commodore is probably more financial muscle than ever the old Commodore was. The prospects for a relaunch of the Commodore is the best.

Barry will probably not be satisfied with this, I think he is determined to go the whole way. That is, buy up all that licenses the names Commodore and Amiga. Once that's done, we can say that the new Commodore is a continuation of the first Commodore.

The new Commodore is not false, it is true. Much more authentic than many people here want it to be. They have only a few months, achieved more than what the Amiga Community accomplished in 17 years and then running the as yet only at low speed. The development will go much faster over time as the speed increases. We will soon see new Amiga in different designs and different. Over time, also a new OS.

Commodore is real, they are here now, they produce and will produce both products, ideas and a new way to go as the first Commodore should have chosen 17 years ago.

It is possible that this forum is the wrong forum for the new Commodore. To all who think so, I would say that it will grow new forum Commodore fit and we are talking not about some handful of members, we are talking about tens of thousands of members.

This development will also benefit all Amiga clones, therefore, also makes this board right to support Commodore's rapid growth.

Both sides are needed, but the Amiga Community will benefit most from the collaboration.

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broadblues wrote: @eXec Quote: And where is AOS 4 now? Where are the applications? Who uses it professional ? I do.

Me raises hand. I do too.
Who uses the new C64 professionally?
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Oh wait..... It's not available yet.

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This development will also benefit all Amiga clones

that's propably the only good thing in this scharade.

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@sundown

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sundown wrote: @damocles I don't care what you paid for the name, you're a new company with an unproven track record, unlike the original Commodore. Don't even dare to put yourself in the same shoes. I have no problems with your products, I just don't like stupid remarks like eXec posted. What is it with your followers & their troll posting? You're attempting to start a compamy on the foundation of the existing Amiga community & at the same time, tear it apart. Have any of you actually gone to business school?

Dammy doesn't work for Commodore USA. Should people start ripping you for being a Hyperion employee?

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@linnar

There are lots of old names out there. What about a relaunch of the ACORN name in the UK? Maybe Clive would be cool with a new Sinclair computer since he only makes foldable bicycles now. And lets not forget Wang. Barry could bring Boing Balls and Wang together!

@linnar

I fear your limitless optimism is based only on wishes, not facts.

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They have only a few months, achieved more than what the Amiga Community accomplished in 17 years and then running the as yet only at low speed.

I hope you know products of CommodoreUSA (like "new" C64) aren´t still available.

I will summ for you what Amiga Community and supporting companies did in the last 17 years (since the fall of Commodore):
Cyberstorm 68060 (Phase5)
CGX and Picasso96 (RTG)
Draco (AmigaOS compatible computer for video editing, Macro Systems)
AHI (support for multiple sound cards)
Cyberstorm PPC and Blizzard603e (Phase5)
Warp3D (support for 3D GFX cards)
PCI slots like Mediator etc.
AmigaOS 3.5 (H-P)
AmigaOS 3.9 (H-P)
USB for nearly any Amiga model (Deneb, Subway etc.)
Amithlon
Pegasos / MorphOS 1.2, 1.3 (Genesi, MorphOS Team)
AmigaOne SE/XE (Eyetech)
Pegasos II (Genesi)
MorphOS 1.4.x (MorphOS Team)
AmigaOS 4.0 pre-release (and Update 1, 2, 3, 4; Hyperion)
uA1 (Eyetech)
AmigaOS 4.0 Final (and July 2007 Update, Hyperion)
AmigaOS 4.0 for A1200/3000/4000 (Hyperion)
Efika (Genesi)
MorphOS 2.0 (and later updates, MorphOS Team)
SAM440ep (ACube)
AmigaOS 4.1 (and Update 1, 2; Hyperion)
SAM440ep-flex (ACube)
MorphOS support for Mac Mini, eMac and PowerMac G4 (MorphOS Team)
SAM460ex (ACube)

Yes, it were busy years, not even counting progress of AROS, Minimig or promising Natami project.

@persia

I just wanted to point out that all would benefit from cooperating, rather than resisted. Now finally a strong player in the market have stepped into the arena. From there might be very good if all cooperating, instead of throwing crap at each other.

The companies you mention that could come back, there is no such commitment from them? If there is anyone who bets on a return there will be no return. Therefore inappropriate to compare.

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@drHirudo

Point me to a software bundle that performs better than any counterpart on pc/mac/linux.

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@pavlor

You ka add much more to your list. It will still not up to any quantity to speak of. C64 will be produced at 1200 units a day. You only have a few days of production, they are catching up 17 years on your list.


But it's not the point, it is that we all would do well to collaborate!

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8 years of hard work and dedication, more than 1 milion EUR in to the development of the OS

Which is meaningless to Amiga Inc.

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and some royalties to Amiga.Inc of course (in accordance with the November 2001 Agreement).

Which Hyperion is no longer paying. I wonder if AI actually saw any royalty money at all. So you just confirmed, AI was paid nothing for Hyperion using the Amiga OS name up front, got very little if any royalties and now is receiving nothing with the settlement. Sundown better look in the mirror before he talks about a company stealing a well known brand name.

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You didn't read my post did you? FIrst I said nothing personal but just had to call you out. Anyway, I specifically said I wasn't pulling a quote of you saying anything bad about OS4. --Read it again.

No, you were attempting to drag me to somewhere else and not what I was replying to Vox about. Vox said I called AOS/MOS/AROS shady, and I demanded proof and you went on some wild goose chase from there about OS4 and some ill conceived project(s) that are associated with OS4. If you want to flame me on something else, start your own thread on it.

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