@Lou

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Also, the theory goes that a faked alien invasion is what will drive the final nail in the coffin to a new world order.

If anyone ever paid a lick of attention at the United Nations they'd realize the whole one world government is impossible.

On the other hand pay attention to the G12 and you'll learn that one world corporate control is much more plausible.

@olegil

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olegil wrote: @BrianK and here I can't even get a laser that'll rip apart the fabric of a bed sheet. life is not fair!

http://hackaday.com/2011/07/10/how-to-build-your-own-pulsed-laser-pistol/

@Nimrod

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Nimrod wrote: @Lou Quote: Did any of it provide a time-study on how long it would take in man-hours to do all that work? Or is it just more claims? Try watching it for yourself to find out. You may even manage to learn something.

ah so no real time studies, I guess between the supposed human sacrificing and all the ancient Bolivians has man-power to spare...

Science by proclamation at it's finest!

I'm glad the UK government has some balls. Especially since they are pro-disclosure...

http://news.yahoo.com/uk-blocks-extradition-alleged-hacker-us-114835560--finance.html

Yes, this is the guy who found evidence of doctored NASA photos where the originals contained ufos...

However, I'm sure some people, particularly in this thread, will continue living in denial of reality...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PkNPCEnJM

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@Lou

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However, I'm sure some people, particularly in this thread, will continue living in denial of reality... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PkNPCEnJM

Interesting video that makes some bold claims. The proof of which are soon to play out. For example, he stated he believes from what he founds we'll use anti-gravity within 7 years. While his hacking was in 2002 and 7 years should have expired and it didn't happen. Let's say we start the clock from when the video was uploaded in May 2006. Yeah, we're looking for a 2nd car next year. I'll be checking out the anti-gravity models next summer! I commit to driving to your house and giving you a ride in my 'Tatoonie LandSpeeder' as she'll be nicknamed and buying dinner for your 10 closest friends at the local place of your choosing! What you need to commit to in return is if it doesn't happen you mail me a 6 pack of your best local brew pub beer. Ready to put your money where your mouth is yet? I am!

Though if the reason for this tread - Nibiru destroys Earth on 12/21/12 is real all bets are off. We'll be dead anyway so...

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@Lou

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ah so no real time studies, I guess between the supposed human sacrificing and all the ancient Bolivians has man-power to spare... Science by proclamation at it's finest!

This, from somebody who has provided absolutely no evidence of any kind for any of the asinine assertions that he hasmade other than to repeat the same unevidenced asinine assertions ad nauseam. Your claim of "no actual obsevational evidence is like claiming that we cannot know the distance between the Earth and the Sun because nobody has held a ruler between the two points.

Evidence has been provided that the societies in question had the necessary level of technology to perform the work shown without extrterrestrial or supernatural assistance, and that the claims to the contrary are clear and blatant lies.
Evidence has not been provided that necessitates the intervention of outside forces, only the proclamation that it is so. Science by proclamation at it's finest!

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@Nimrod

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Nimrod wrote: @Lou Quote: ah so no real time studies, I guess between the supposed human sacrificing and all the ancient Bolivians has man-power to spare... Science by proclamation at it's finest! This, from somebody who has provided absolutely no evidence of any kind for any of the asinine assertions that he hasmade other than to repeat the same unevidenced asinine assertions ad nauseam. Your claim of "no actual obsevational evidence is like claiming that we cannot know the distance between the Earth and the Sun because nobody has held a ruler between the two points. Evidence has been provided that the societies in question had the necessary level of technology to perform the work shown without extrterrestrial or supernatural assistance, and that the claims to the contrary are clear and blatant lies. Evidence has not been provided that necessitates the intervention of outside forces, only the proclamation that it is so. Science by proclamation at it's finest!

So basically what you're saying is that you think I'm more full of sh!t than you actually are, Mr. Gravity > EM/Luminocity not photons/rest mass vs. relativistic mass/I can't count how many other bone-headed things you said...

Problems with quoting: See next post.

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@Lou

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Lou wrote: I'm glad the UK government has some balls. Especially since they are pro-disclosure... http://news.yahoo.com/uk-blocks-extradition-alleged-hacker-us-114835560--finance.html Yes, this is the guy who found evidence of doctored NASA photos where the originals contained ufos... However, I'm sure some people, particularly in this thread, will continue living in denial of reality... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PkNPCEnJM

I would take such evidence lightly. With todays picture editing software a photo or clip for that matter is worth absolutely nothing. Return when you find a hand laser or something.


ps. I consider myself as an open minded sceptic when it comes to UFO sigthings. I want to beleive but it is hard to soemtimes.

ps2. why doesn't the quoting work? I begin the phrase with |quote| and end it with |/quote|. (| exchanged for brackets). Now it quotes everything after the last quote too, and whats with the width of the text!?

ps3. Fixed with Firefox at home.

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@Lou

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Mr. Gravity > EM/Luminocity

EM energy can be measured and, believe it or not, it actually is measured. The measured levels of EM energy in the form of photons are insufficient to account for measured gravitational effects. The vacuum energy has been measured at 0.6 Joules per kM3. If you stand out in the open at sunrise/sunset, the strongest source of light energy is not strong enough to push you along. The voyager space probe is only now reaching the point where the influence of the suns EM field is falling to the level of the background level which is why I can confidently cite the Sun as the strongest source and claim that if "Radiation pressure" was the cause of gravity, this planet would have been pushed away from the sun billions of years ago.

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rest mass vs. relativistic mass

I have already referred to this claim before but since you lack either the willingness, or the ability to read I will reiterate my answer. On this forum it is not necessary to calculate million ton masses down to fractions of a picogramme, and as a result I use the quick calculation of E=mc^2. Unless you can provide evidence that we are moving at speeds that approach a significant portion of c, I can see no benefit of adding the rest of the equation to produce E=(mc^2) / √(1-(v^2/c^2)) Referring back to the 68 million ton asteroid that at perihelion recieves a maximum push away from the sun from radiation pressure of 14 grammes has a few microgrammes added to its mass by virtue of its speed (v) being taken into account. It really is not necessary to calculate the mass of this rock to five hundred decimal places to understand that it is smaller than Jupiter. It is not that I am unaware of the differences, it is that I have recognised that the differences are not significant at this point.

I will admit that I have left these inaccuracies in to facilitate comprehensible replies since this forum is not intended as a scientific dissertation, but feel free to compare your own inaccuracies such as
1) "Fiero, worlds fastest electric car" which it isn't
2) "Low frequency EM cannot be blocked" It can, and it often is. Gravity probe B did it in order to eliminate EM interference with the method of measuring the spin of the gyroscopes
3) "Giza pyramid built of million ton blocks" when it isn't
and these are only the ones that have direct evidence that don't need mathematics to refute and you cannot dishonestly claim contemporary photographic evidence has been falsified( the "driver did it" fallacy)

You constantly make known false statements to conceal your own lack of understanding but what you really don't understand is that YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND

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@Niolator

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ps2. why doesn't the quoting work? I begin the phrase with |quote| and end it with |/quote|. (| exchanged for brackets). Now it quotes everything after the last quote too, and whats with the width of the text!?

Sometimes the engine seems to be finicky. My recommendation is check spacing around the brackets add an extra space between different brackets and/or between the end of the sentence and the close of the quote. Also look for duplicate quotes you might have an extra starting quote brackets.

@BrianK

Thanks for the tip Brian. I fixed it with Firefox though. I think IE at work is crippled or something.

@Nimrod

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Nimrod wrote: @Lou 1) "Fiero, worlds fastest electric car" which it isn't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvg-j40N0ek

Until you show me a faster electric 1/4 mile car, you are full of hot air as in everything else.

What's even funnier is that Alcan under contract for GM re-created the Fiero spaceframe in aluminum and GM used it for the EV-1...so it's ironic that a Fiero currently holds the record. Imagine one based off an aluminum frame...

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In yet another tale of science fiction becoming science fact...

In the newest Battlestar Galactica series from a few years ago... In one of the episodes, the pilots eject from the edge of space and eventually parachute to safety.

Well...
http://news.yahoo.com/skydivers-feat-could-influence-spacesuit-design-205703698.html

@Lou

About UFO´s. I believe our system is interdicted. It is completely shielded from artificial EM transmissions, the wow signal just happened to slip through. That is why I await Voyager probes reaching interstellar space with great interest..

@Lou

That car is the fastest I've found, but I have a hard time calling it a Pontiac Fiero.

There's not much Fiero in it.

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@Lou

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Until you show me a faster electric 1/4 mile car, you are full of hot air as in everything else.

I will admit that 134 mph is not bad, but I notice that you are already setting limits to its effectiveness. What if you want to go a little bit further than 440 yards?
Anyway I think that 190 mph is just possibly faster than the Fiero, as was the Eliica back in 2005, when it achieved 230 mph. Another sad fact for you is that compared to most European cars (with the possible exception of the Trabant) , the Fiero handles like a pig on an ice rink.

@Olegil

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That car is the fastest I've found, but I have a hard time calling it a Pontiac Fiero. There's not much Fiero in it.

It has the Fiero badge on the front, and that is good enough for Lou to claim that Fieros rule the world, just like he claims "It's all EM" simply because EM exists.

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@Nimrod

I've also found this:
http://www.stuff.tv/news/life-etc/news-nugget/nemesis-fastest-electric-car-ever-breaks-world-record-today

Which got up to 148 on a quarter mile. I found this first, then misread the 155mph claim for the DC Plasma nee Fiero to be quarter mile, not full mile. So yeah, I agree. The DC Plasma is nowhere near being the fastest electric car. Ironically enough it's not even listed as record holder by Nedra, the current record listed there is actually slower.

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This weeks pet peeve:
Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@Niolator

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Niolator wrote: @Lou About UFO´s. I believe our system is interdicted. It is completely shielded from artificial EM transmissions, the wow signal just happened to slip through. That is why I await Voyager probes reaching interstellar space with great interest..

I've heard about the shield mentioned before over the years. Also called the 'veil' ... But who knows... EM is EM and I find it hard to believe we can see X rays and gamma rays, etc..., but communications is blocked... Unless stellar communications is limited to specific frequencies which is possible.