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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 12:01:28
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As far as why CUSA fans post here, I think a few of them want to be seen as the new beginning of the old Commodore computer company which is not going to be well received in a place like this. What they are doing would be acceptable if they would just handle themselves like a small retro PC company (which is what they are).
Most of us seem to respect them making the C64 case and putting a PC inside it. The problem comes in presenting themselves as a large company with tens of millions of dollars ready to take on silicon valley. That kind of talk gets a well deserved chuckle from people that know better.
In this day and age, it's more important to present yourself (as a company) to be well organized rather that simply "large" as far as distribution goes. System 76 is a prime example of a company that simply re-brands an existing PC for the Linux community and does it well. They are respected not because they sell a lot of computers, but because they provide excellent customer service along with Ubuntu specific drivers for the hardware that they offer.
The mistakes CUSA has made so far are stupid but forgivable (imo). It's what they "do" that's going to really matter. Unforgivable would be a product that they don't stand behind. What will save them will be a solid product that lasts and an OS with all the proper support. It doesn't have to be Apple support but good support nonetheless.
Of course, all of this means nothing here at AmigaWorld because this is not a Linux based community, so they really need to stop posting here. They will save themselves a lot of headaches. I would recommend to them, that they hook up with the Ubuntu community instead. Start by talking to someone at OMGUbuntu! and go from there. But never represent themselves as something they are not. That will destroy their reputation in ANY community.
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Thanks Tommy,
Strange how "x86 Amiga totalitarists" (even no official x86 exists) are not satisfied with availiability of PPC hardware improved, as well as they miss to notice small but important software improvements. Meanwhile, "fog" and "promises" is their big time product.
Just like with "Amiga" tablets there is a reason why they simply don`t belong here and are first to be known as "traitors to Amiga brend" or simpler "exploits".
Linux community I&I doubt would accept them too, since they kind of close source Linux modification, without known specs, no open beta testing, no development plan etc. which is also kind of Outrage?
At the end, as x86 product is overpriced per specs, sold without Windows (which is kind of thing in Wintel world) and with at this time uncertain support, availiability and OS development plan. Cat inna bag Serbs would say.
And they neva get any knowledge from real critism that coud actualy improve their PR and product. Time will tell, what will happen, especially after 1st wave euphoria by retro and geek gadget consumers that would buy it just for the look, not looking to company history and PR model._________________ Future Acube and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionals. Learn it harder way! |
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 12:05:29
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eXec wrote: @eliyahu
S.M.I. is the ultimate mental weapon carefully stored inside one person here on this forum. Actually, two persons. One infected the other. The first is the source of pure wisdom and morality but only false used at wrong place in the wrong time and the other is currently under restriction. But he will soon come with the I&I Tourrete syndrome.
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I&I believe your CEO has Tourette, or is exploiting one in Cartman style.
As somehwere else, exec has mentioned wish for I&I to be in prison by time CUSA realises anything, I&I don`t curse, chant no slackness and commit no crime. Just wish we have better consumer protection and better anti exploit laws, so CUSA could do its funky blues time.
As moderators pretend these were not insults to I&I, neither these are.
Best in life, according to deeds
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 12:06:35
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vox wrote: @wawa we intend to champion the open source movement and show the world what open source is capable of. |
Yeah, thank God for CUSA, 'cause the likes of Red Hat, IBM, Apache Foundation and tens of other viable open source based companies weren't able to do it!!
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Presenting Atom based board and Linux cloused source as innovation! Everything comes late and with supermacism!
Surely, they are the heart of open source movement!
Tune they surely can be seen in "Money Ah Dem God" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yXBWxpaEHM&feature=channel_video_titleLast edited by vox on 23-Jun-2011 at 12:08 PM.
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 12:22:22
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...and with at this time uncertain support, availiability and OS development plan. Cat inna bag Serbs would say. |
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...no open beta testing, no development plan etc. which is also kind of Outrage? |
so why do you use OS4 then? _________________
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 12:56:52
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1) Because its AmigaOS
2) Because its not faked open source OS. For such small magnitude OS, for now, its even better its commercialy supported. So far, I&I have registered OS 3.5, OS 4.0 Classic (gifted to a friend that has PPC Classic), OS 4.1 SAM EP440 and plan to purchase SAM lite alongside 460 version. Plus the software.
That is real support and gratitude for continious development. So far CUSA hasn`t presented even Snowmaker, but we expect you to.
And no false promises.
Real question is why you don`t use AmigaOS? _________________ Future Acube and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionals. Learn it harder way! |
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 13:03:58
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wait, so it's double standards... because you criticized C=USA for closed beta testing, uncertain development plan and availability and called it cat in a bag and outrage... So I guess that than you're using a cat in a bag yourself? Are you outraged at Hyperion also?
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 13:22:54
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 13:30:33
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Yes, Hyperion is critised for their share, like e.g. SIN, Gorky 17 and being late.
However, they currently have more software products then CUSA and is far more known of their products.
Master of double standards is CUSA, claiming to be Commodore Amiga sucessor while bashing remaining of its (Commoodore Amiga) community.
Well, you don`t use current AmigaOS and neither plan to.
Right, don`t feed the CUSA discussions.
Ends here.
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 13:35:17
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elatour wrote: @all Wow! You guys have way too much time on your hands! Imagine what other constructive things you could do with your lives if you spent as much time actually creating something and/or contributing something postive and constructive to this world. Sadly, you'll never get this time back...nor, come to think of it, will I ever get the time spent reading much too many of these useless posts with people going at it back and forth ad nauseum or now my taking the time to post about it.
But, seriously folks, when you're all on your death bed - hopefully many moons from now - will you think back on the time and energy spent on this useless banter as good use of your time or quality time? I hardly think so. I sure won't, that's for sure! Which is why I spend less and less time coming to this site as time goes on and get more and more grey hairs. Nothing against AW, but the some of the people on it and the "discussions" they have with each other really leave to be desired when half of the threads degenerate into insults back and forth. Geesh!
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Hope you don't take any offence at this but...
Yup I've got plenty of time on my hands and for 25 years I've been writing programs in Assembler for the Amiga and still do...
Time spent arguing/ debating is just like everything in life whether you consider it be a waste of time or not, ie: it's all just passing the time until the day we kick the bucket...
If you don't consider it useful or constructive then that's up to you but you shouldn't try to impose your personal views on others by telling them what to do, if you don't like it, agree with it and consider it a waste of your precious time why do you respond to it !!!
What you regard as insults and people not contributing constructively is merely your own narrow minded view of life, others enjoy such things as they see them for what they are, nothing more than light-hearted meaningless banter that shouldn't be taken seriously.
When I'm on my death bed I can assure you I will look back at my life with no regrets whatsoever and die with a smile on my face thinking about folks like yourself who spent their lives taking everything so seriously that they never knew the meaning of actually enjoying life and seeing the fun side of it...
PS: You really should learn not to take stuff you read on forums as being of any importance in your life or get upset and not visit them because you don't like their "discussions" otherwise the grey hairs of which you speak will appear long before their time and the old "Death Bed" will arrive sooner than you would like...
Take it all for what it really is nothing more than folks saying things that will never have any effect on your personal life and have a laugh, you'll feel better for it... _________________
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 13:37:35
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 13:50:30
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Still the i&i crap going on?. Sigh...
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 13:57:30
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You `re back! At last. This place without you is a sour cup of coffee.
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 14:30:47
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At the end, as x86 product is overpriced per specs, sold without Windows (which is kind of thing in Wintel world) and with at this time uncertain support, availiability and OS development plan. Cat inna bag Serbs would say.
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At the end, the PowerPC based X1000 product is overpriced per specs.
Let's keep things into perspective.Last edited by Hammer on 23-Jun-2011 at 02:32 PM.
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 15:36:51
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So Franko, did you have to do any favors to Barry for your position with CUSA? How many positions have you tried with Barry?
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 15:39:48
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So Franko, did you have to do any favors to Barry for your position with CUSA? How many positions have you tried with Barry?
Just curious |
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 16:13:53
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A guy who spent 1 year trolling Amiga.org with over 5,000 posts in that one year. At the end of the year he posted to moobunny admitting he was simply trolling. Much of his trolling was as the lead attacker against CUSA and anyone not ultra-negative about CUSA. A week or so ago he threw AO staff and owner under the bus and joined CUSA "staff". In short he is an attention whore and a drama queen. _________________ Power Mac G4 "Quicksilver 2002" 800Mhz, 1.5GB RAM, Radeon 8500 MorphOS 2.7 (Registered) $225 total spent! |
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 16:17:49
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>>So Franko, did you have to do any favors to Barry for your position with CUSA? >>How many positions have you tried with Barry?
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 16:23:32
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Still the i&i crap going on?. Sigh... |
I probably shouldn't ask, but since this thread entered the realm of faery quite a few pages back, I will: what is I&I?
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 16:35:11
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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale Posted on 23-Jun-2011 16:39:43
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>>So Franko, did you have to do any favors to Barry for your position with CUSA? >>How many positions have you tried with Barry?
You should read that again...carefully... |
Another retard rattling his gums and gibbering more crap than can be found in one of RedBumBlowa's posts....
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