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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 20:29:09
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The device already exists and will be sourced in a special configuration from an OEM.
Hardware development is therefore 100% completed.
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You are kidding, Rogue told us that he only has a prototype and a lot of things might still change: http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/report.php?forum=4&topic_id=4910&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&post_id=65604
So it can't be 100% ready._________________ AmigaONE. Haha. Just because you can put label on it does not make it Amiga.
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 20:30:21
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Hehehe.... and version 2 is rather usefull on my smartphone. Man, the more talk and speculation I read (and write) the more I want one. And, this I will get talked into the house _________________ Back home... |
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:17:46
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Wrong. We have a specially customised version with debugging support which you could call a "prototype" although the term is probably not well chosen.
The device is however 100% ready for mass-production by an OEM manufacturer subject to finalization of the specs (memory, SSD size, connectivity etc.) This will require no change to the design. _________________
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:20:08
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:25:07
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Just because there is a build available doesn't mean it works well and it's still some way behind the latest release but it's at least a better starting point. I expect any further development and getting it to run on the OS4 netbook would have to be taken up by a willing member of this community and I'm nor sure there are a lot of capable people left who have the time for something like that but at least it may be an option.
AmigaOS on a netbook is the main thing and I'm glad it's happening as it makes it possible for me to join the party at some point _________________
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:26:38
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True, but lets say e300 and PowerVR is nice beginning. OS4 can be run on it as well as Linux is, it needs finalizing OS port (like X1000 betatesting) and finalizing the best possible specs.
And hope things can only change to better.
Why so much negativity about the big news? Like we are loving MOS for PowerMac, AspireOS for x86 laptops, this is OS4 going nettopLast edited by vox on 23-Oct-2011 at 09:29 PM.
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:36:19
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AmigaOS on a netbook is the main thing and I'm glad it's happening as it makes it possible for me to join the party at some point |
You are so right! I'll just lean back, see what comes and try to lower my enthusiasm a bit. I'm rather sure it would fit my bill as the boss will supply me with material to suit my none Amiga needs.
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:54:08
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Excellent news. Things really have been moving forward these past two years and I am particularly glad that you've managed to get the price of the new netbook down to well within my present financial means. |
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 22:02:28
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Prototypes, with "s" at the end, so minimun exists two.
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 22:15:39
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| If the price i read at amigans is correct, then i guess my wish for affordable hardware is coming true. |
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 22:29:24
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If the price i read at amigans is correct, then i guess my wish for affordable hardware is coming true. |
300-500$ that is 216-380 euros including AmigaOS 4
Yes, portable AmigaOS 4 machine, cheaper then ever
If they make it, it would be great, again thanks to mass production.
And hope it will dual boot Linux too, since they say its already existing and running Linux. So yes, it will be rebadging and putting AmigaoS 4 port to it, but that is the only way to go lower price, instead of taking A-Cube/A-Eon new design small quantity = expensive road.
P.S. Taking Hyperion blog, forum, website = communication 3D drivers = AnigaOS 4.2 (also new updates for OS 4.1) Timberwolf getting ready for Beta Having lower priced OS4 nettop affordable then ever Having update 3 changelog on new website
... one must say Hyperion listens to the voice of people
Last edited by vox on 23-Oct-2011 at 10:45 PM. Last edited by vox on 23-Oct-2011 at 10:30 PM.
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 22:35:39
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Somewhere between here: 1667,97 and 2779,95nok. One of the friedens hoped for down towards the 1669. And thats cheap for os4 machine. So start saving up. I will.
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 22:40:03
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How about building 2 models as; one @300 USD price point (low-end), other @500-600 USD price point (high end) ?
For example high end one with 3G/Wifi connectivity could open new possibilities for AmigaOS.. _________________ AmigaOS4 Beta-Tester ---------------------------------- Amiga X5000 8GB Radeon RX 560 Amiga A1222 2GB Radeon RX 550 Sam 460 2GB RadeonRX 550 |
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 23:09:52
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| Intriguing... The cynical side of me would say this announcement is meant to preempt December's MorphOS 3.0 release that includes PowerBook support.
Putting that aside, I may be interested if the price is on the low end of the hint and the specs are on the high side of the hint. If it is $300 and >800mhz with a dealer outside of the UK selling them, maybe I will try it out. If it is $500+ and only 400Mhz, no thanks. _________________ Power Mac G4 "Quicksilver 2002" 800Mhz, 1.5GB RAM, Radeon 8500 MorphOS 2.7 (Registered) $225 total spent! |
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 23:24:20
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The cynical side of me would say this announcement is meant to preempt December's MorphOS 3.0 release that includes PowerBook support. |
Shouldn't matter much even if it was. Powerbooks should be a lot faster and be about the same price (at least here in Sweden) as one of these netbooks. Granted a MorphOS license isn't included, but still.
EDIT: And AROS have had netbook support for ages. So if it was just about using a laptop there wouldn't be a need for MorphOS or AmigaOS 4.x to support them. Obviously people actually care what OS they support, can you believe that? END EDIT!
I think this is great, and I hope to get one of these machines.Last edited by zerohero on 23-Oct-2011 at 11:28 PM.
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 23:30:25
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redrumloa wrote: Intriguing... The cynical side of me would say this announcement is meant to preempt December's MorphOS 3.0 release that includes PowerBook support.
Putting that aside, I may be interested if the price is on the low end of the hint and the specs are on the high side of the hint. If it is $300 and >800mhz with a dealer outside of the UK selling them, maybe I will try it out. If it is $500+ and only 400Mhz, no thanks. |
Well, its just announcement, and it will be done sometimes in 2012, while MOS 3.x will be out for PowerBook fully. Also, PowerBook with G4 is way out of the league of this nettop (as full laptops are) even it goes 800Mhz.
However, you take out of the picture it is supposed to be not only first OS4 portable machine, but also about the cheapest OS4 system, thanks to many components nettops can work without and integration, as well as mass produced hardware used first time in OS4. Lets hope to see it, just because this could be much more attractive with Timberwolf for todays generation then any other OS4 hardware.
And is also viable platform for MorphOS 3 too ..._________________ Future Acube and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionals. Learn it harder way! |
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 23:36:18
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It isn't 800 MHz, but 400. It was confirmed by Acube that it is a Limebook on Ikir sector. _________________ My programs: via.bckrs.de MorphOS user since V0.4 (2001) |
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 23-Oct-2011 23:57:49
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So if it was just about using a laptop there wouldn't be a need for MorphOS or AmigaOS 4.x to support them. Obviously people actually care what OS they support, can you believe that? |
Not quite sure where you are coming with this comment? I would hope people would be open minded and not just blindly follow one option. I find MorphOS to be the most usable option ATM, but would give OS4 a try if the cost of entry for a reasonablly specced working system wasn't so far out of whack. A $300 netbook with reasonable specs could do it for me to give a try, but with Acube confirming it is 400Mhz I am afraid I will pass
-Edit- I will say at 400Mhz my cynical side was wrong about them trying to preempt MorphOS 3.0's PowerBook Support.Last edited by redrumloa on 24-Oct-2011 at 12:05 AM.
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 24-Oct-2011 0:03:22
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| If the machine comes with an external monitor port I will buy one--Even though I'm a supporter of AROS. This is a winner for hyperion and OS4. A good business move.
PLEASE DON'T DROP THE EXTERNAL MONITOR PORT!
I can understand how this could cannibalize sales, however, dropping the external port will hurt sales in the long run from people like me who just want to try the OS without a big investment. |
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012? Posted on 24-Oct-2011 0:08:46
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I would hope people would be open minded and not just blindly follow one option. |
Interesting choice of words here. In this context, are people chosing MorphOS open minded or blindly following one option?
What I am saying is that even if MorphOS is the best option some people would still run AROS or AmigaOS 4.x. Calling those blind followers isn't very nice. Calling anyone blind followers because they chose something different to you isn't very nice._________________ Common sense - So rare it's almost like a super power |
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