I know CUSA is controversial here but certainly Amiga is on-topic:

http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/2-welcome-mat/11285-some-more-good-news-to-end-2011#11285

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On Dec 22, 2011 Commodore USA, LLC and Amiga Inc. signed a new contract granting us EXCLUSIVE WORLDWIDE rights to ALL format computers branded with the Amiga trademark IP. These registered trademarked logos include the BOING Ball, TIC/Check mark, letter A and the word AMIGA logos. Form factors include, but are not limited to Desktop, HTPC, Tower, AIO/ Keyboard etc. This contract will run through Dec 31, 2018, with optional renewals. Additionally we have been granted the right to enforce the Amiga trademark IP, in instances where we feel the trademark property has been either used in an unauthorized manner or in a form not allowed under current international and US law. We look forward to releasing our initial Commodore Amiga branded computers by the end of the first quarter 2012. Happy New year!

@jorkany

Already discussed in 2 threads.

More Good News

and

digitex's announcement concerning Commodore

digitex's announcement concerning Amiga

btw, since you were last here there are a lot of new forums, including a dedicated forum for CUSA. You might want to catch up. Heh.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=44&1350

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@jorkany

So CUSA have strengthened they're contract with Amiga INC. Not really very interesting. I wonder if this is what Dammy was claiming would be a devastating blow for OS4 fans.

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I wonder if this is what Dammy was claiming would be a devastating blow for OS4 fans.

Clearly not.

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I wonder if this is what Dammy was claiming would be a devastating blow for OS4 fans.

Nonsense, this upcoming announcement may have a few curious minded OS4 fans considering where OS4 might be now if Barry had his way in going with OS4 as C=USA's primary Operating System. Now the hate filled Anti-C=USA trolls, on the other hand, will not be happy campers after this announcement is made. It's going to be a really awful day for those hate filled Anti-C=USA trolls actually. May I suggest we organize a group PMing of those hate filled anti-C=USA trolls with hugs and smiles to help them through this traumatic period in their lives?

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@Tomazkid

Clearly it's taking no time whatsoever for this one to go down the crapper.

Please move it to its appropriate forum. Heh.

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Nonsense, this upcoming announcement may have a few curious minded OS4 fans considering where OS4 might be now if Barry had his way in going with OS4 as C=USA's primary Operating System

That old one. LOL. If Barry wanted to sell OS4 based systems what's to stop him.

@jorkany

This will affect X1000 cases for sure: they are using the boing ball, so if I was CUSA y will tell the parts involved: Ok, I won´t block your use of my trademark if you stop blocking me the use of AROS.

That would be fair and start an interesting situation.

@vision

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and start an interesting situation.

Another lawsuit?

@damocles

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Nonsense, this upcoming announcement may have a few curious minded OS4 fans considering where OS4 might be now if Barry had his way in going with OS4 as C=USA's primary Operating System. Now the hate filled Anti-C=USA trolls, on the other hand, will not be happy campers after this announcement is made. It's going to be a really awful day for those hate filled Anti-C=USA trolls actually. May I suggest we organize a group PMing of those hate filled anti-C=USA trolls with hugs and smiles to help them through this traumatic period in their lives?

Give it a rest.

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Relocated.

@Rob

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That old one. LOL. If Barry wanted to sell OS4 based systems what's to stop him.

Ben.

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@RobQuote:That old one. LOL. If Barry wanted to sell OS4 based systems what's to stop him. Ben.

So, Hyperion stops all their current projects to support cusa. Interesting, I see cusa offering to do a port, if Ben agreed, he'd only end up destroying not only Hyperion, but a-eon & Acube & cusa would end up owning os4.

cusa never came into the amiga community as a friend, but as a destroyer.

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@jorkanyThis will affect X1000 cases for sure:

No it won't, its nothing more the a simple case design.

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So, Hyperion stops all their current projects to support cusa. Interesting, I see cusa offering to do a port, if Ben agreed, he'd only end up destroying not only Hyperion, but a-eon & Acube & cusa would end up owning os4.

It would have to have been Hyperion to do the port (which means money exchanges hands) since they had the staff and the knowledge to get it done. I don't see why it would have hurt Hyperion at the time (18+ months ago?) since it would have brought in much needed money while they were waiting on the A1X1K to be finished. If anything, even with a modest contract, that OS4 Devs would have seen to have permanent full and part time paid positions. Significant revenue streams can do wonders for a company, they can afford to pay employees (or sub contractors).

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@damocles

I think this is an over simplification of the issues.
Contracts and NDAs exist between Hyperion, A-EON, Varisys, Acube, etc.
Unless you know the details of these things, and how it might affect everyone involved (in so many ways)...
And think of the customers as well. Questions would arise as to whether they were buying into a soon to be orphaned company.
You seem to think some kind of simultaneous activity could evolve on multiple fronts. But that takes us back to the fact that Hyperion has clearly stated they have limited resources, so I have serious doubts about them carrying on current business while simultaneously going down another path.
Thinking about that future path and doing a little preparation for it, sure. That's different.

Just some things to think about. It's not as simple as "why not do a port and make some easy money".

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@jorkany

Gawd you're slow these days...

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Gawd you're slow these days

Suspiciously minded people might say he was not slow, but just reposted it in "Amiga General Chat" to get it on the front page.

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I think this is an over simplification of the issues. Contracts and NDAs exist between Hyperion, A-EON, Varisys, Acube, etc.

This was what, minimum of 18 months ago as I am not referring to anything in the here and now. I doubt Varisys has any such contract with Hyperion as they would be dealing straight with A-EON. ACube, AFAIK, had to do their own OS4 drivers for SAM460. Granted, I'm sure the finite number of Devs have been working on A1X1K port and drivers, but I doubt it has been a full time job for many, if any.

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But that takes us back to the fact that Hyperion has clearly stated they have limited resources, so I have serious doubts about them carrying on current business while simultaneously going down another path.

With their past (18 months ago) resources, I agree. I don't think they would have had the man power and or the financial resources to do a x86 port and would most likely require external funding for development. If you don't think they could have achieved a x86 port with such external funding for full time OS4 Devs, I'll take your word for it that any such deal between Hyperion and C=USA was doomed at the very start.

Fair enough?

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@damocles

The only fairly recent public posting that explains their position is still:

this one

Granted it's been 6 months since the post was made, but clearly indicates they had not reached a point where they were seriously re-evaluating the idea of taking a new route. It does mention funding requirements though, and arm as an option.

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If you don't think they could have achieved a x86 port with such external funding for full time OS4 Devs, I'll take your word for it

I never talked about about the ability to achieve this, beyond the fact that the resources are taxed due to the additional factors I see, such as these companies Hyperion interacts with already being involved in new projects, in addition to the current ones. This would not coincide very well imo with having a dialog about taking a new path entirely. As example I'll cite that Trevor Dickinson already publically announced another project underway. So, clearly there were more plans in the works beyond the current ones. And let's not forget that the netbook was announced as well since HyperionMP's post in June, 2011.

Put a simpler way, I'm talking about "timing" for such a conversation. If Hyperion had had nothing on the table and no partners the situation might well be different. Keep in mind this is merely my opinion and conclusion from reading public documents.

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