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wawa 
Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 19:37:17
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@Hans

youve just beat me by seconds..;)

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@all
In other words, that becnhmarks are wrong currently ?



I mean that for x1000 used non-altivec versino, while for macs used altivec one ?

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 20:01:22
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@kas1e

I never trust any benchmark I didn´t forge myself.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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could you ask mufa which lame he has used for the test and where it is to download?

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@pavlor

Sure , but i think Piru will not lie about :) Just need to be sure that the same file are used, and for all the tests used the same version of lame (or non-altivec for all, or altivec one for all).

Because its even unpossible that x1000 with the same lame will be on the level of macmini by speed, so i assume that benchmark are wrong, and for x1000 non altivec version are used, while for macs are altivec one.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@Hans

When non Altivec version was used, X1000 wins.
Altivec is great thing if it speeds up multimedia 2x
Sadly, AMCC CPU`s don`t have it, just Old A1, MacMinis and X1000 ...

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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i see I7 920 at 2,6 ghz much faster than i7 950 at 3 ghz

you have to make for yourselfs blender :)

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@sundown

you should try blend.test from blender site :)

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@kas1e

Well, the tests are fine for now. Currently a Mac mini is as fast as the X1000 with lame mp3 ( I gave lame output in posting #185) with mp3 encoding. But that doesn't rule out that with an update the X1000 won't be faster then. But as said, I prefer to rather concentrate on the actual here and now, and lesser on a theroretical may/will/should be.

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@Zylesea

seems though that the current pcs are barely two times faster than mini and x1k on that (mine needs 7 secondes for the like operation. though im not sure if this is completely the same test and the file is not in ram.

C:\Programme\Lame For Audacity>lame AKsack.wav AKsack.mp3
LAME 3.99.3 32bits (http://lame.sf.net)
Using polyphase lowpass filter, transition band: 16538 Hz - 17071 Hz
Encoding AKsack.wav to AKsack.mp3
Encoding as 44.1 kHz j-stereo MPEG-1 Layer III (11x) 128 kbps qval=3
Frame | CPU time/estim | REAL time/estim | play/CPU | ETA
10529/10529 (100%)| 0:07/ 0:07| 0:07/ 0:07| 36.295x| 0:00
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kbps MS % long switch short %
128.0 100.0 74.4 13.4 12.2
Writing LAME Tag...done
ReplayGain: +0.5dB

Last edited by wawa on 02-Feb-2012 at 08:55 PM.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@sicky

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I also use Hollywood and Designer, do you have those?


No, and no - looks like I will have to get some new software!

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I discovered the on-board battery was no good, fitted a new one and it's been very stable now,


Wow! I'm surprised that the motherboard battery would effect stability - I thought it only held the firmware settings and the RTC?

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 21:10:47
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@vox
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When non Altivec version was used, X1000 wins.


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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@Seiya

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you should try blend.test from blender site :)

I have it, but blender needs a gfx card with miniGL support as that benchmark requires it & that file can't be run in a shell. It will run with an old PCI gfx card, but those are slow, so not a true test for blender. Same goes for using Wasp3D, it would be just as slow or slower then an old gfx card. We just have to wait for the new gfx driver before testing blender speed, & since thats part of 4.2, it won't get reported.

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sicky 
Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 21:23:18
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@-Sam-

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Wow! I'm surprised that the motherboard battery would effect stability - I thought it only held the firmware settings and the RTC?


Yes, maybe stability is the wrong phrase, it did make my machine very unreliable, causing many crashes at startup, would get as far as splash screen and get no further. Discovered my SAM460 thought it was year 2072! Once booted correctly was stable apart fron installed USB card reader caused problems after update 3 made system unstable so disconnected it. Will try re-connecting now have update 4 installed to see if USB is more stable!

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 21:38:24
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@wawa

The numbers you gave put a surprising good light on the old G4 gear. I mean how old is this G4 stuff now? And still only factor 2-3 from todays current stuff in this discipline.
But with anything that is paralleizable and requires high bandwidth a modern multicore x86 will eat this G4 kit for breakfast. Or more likely as appetizer for breakfast.

I am optimistic X1000 will show it's strength with bandwidth intensive stuff, there it will clearly lead over G4 stuff. I am still curious for video replay performance.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 21:57:41
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@all

plz test the lender benchmark file for real comparison:



http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=30693&forum=32#634656

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 22:15:22
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just because MOS team decided not to do it (e.g. MOS for dual core G5 or X1000) doesn`t mean its impossible.


I think you smoked too much, It has been explained time and time again by all the knowledgeble coders in the community, that smp on an amiga os is impossible without breaking compability. And if it dosn't run aos programs then its hardly amiga.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 22:18:11
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@sicky

Future date like this also causes same problem on Sam 440Ep-flex.

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Wow! I'm surprised that the motherboard battery would effect stability - I thought it only held the firmware settings and the RTC?


Yes, maybe stability is the wrong phrase, it did make my machine very unreliable, causing many crashes at startup, would get as far as splash screen and get no further. Discovered my SAM460 thought it was year 2072! Once booted correctly was stable apart fron installed USB card reader caused problems after update 3 made system unstable so disconnected it. Will try re-connecting now have update 4 installed to see if USB is more stable!

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wawa 
Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 22:45:15
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@Tuxedo:
being severly disapointed with a poor performance of my i7/2.9 on lame test i can now confirm the results from the blender table, so likely this might be more sensiblke benchmark.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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