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Tomas 
Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 31-May-2012 18:47:11
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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@Tomas

Well I can login whit my old account, I don't like having FB login in Spotify because, I think of it as Single point of failure, if some thing goes wrong whit FB, then every thing that depends on will also be open.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_point_of_failure

Yeah I know.. But if you didn't register back then then you are screwed unless you have facebook.. I actually have an old account I think but I still refuse to use it simply because of this.
If they changed it back then I would pay for subscription as well.
And I am not the only one:
link
This link also used to have arrogant replies from spotify themselves claiming it is good for us. And suggesting that we make a fake facebook account if we are so afraid of our privacy, even though that is against facebook rules and will lead to your account being suspended, which means you wont even be able to login to spotify anymore even though you paid for it.
Now these replies has been removed....

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 11-Jun-2012 7:24:12
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I have to agree - don't count our chickens until they are hatched! I'd rate the chances of this producing something (that we can download) at maybe 50%. Wait until we have something concrete (like a working beta version) before posting everywhere, or else there is the risk of making the Amiga look worse not better.



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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 5-Aug-2012 18:43:38
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So.. Any update??
It has been months so surely they must have responded by now??

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 5-Aug-2012 20:12:13
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@Tomas

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 5-Aug-2012 20:53:05
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@Tomas

We are gathering strength for another approach. This is for sure a experience for us who are dealing
with Spotify in this matter.

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Hondo 
Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 8:09:26
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@Skuggan

I propose a beerbounty so you guys can keep pouring good beer down their throats, oh and even invite them on a restaurant. You guys are not supposed to pay for this. We the amiga community could donate to this. It's a strange way of getting software for our platform but if it works, then it's just great!

Become pals with these guys, and make it a personal thing for them, you know push their prides, etc. But I'm sure you already are doing this. It just takes some funding to keep up the momentum.

Troels/Amigabounty could we set up something for this project ? - so they don't have to pay everything by themselves ?

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 9:19:57
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@Hondo

Are you serious now ?
Boozebounty! !!

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Skuggan 
Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 9:51:15
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@Hondo

No more bounty for this. I will pay for it myself. The bounty to sponsor the sam460 was a success.
Now we just need spotify to give the machine more attention.
They have a lot of work to do on payed projects.

If you wish to help Spotify on Amiga and at the same time earn money, go to:
http://www.spotify.com/se/jobs/ and solve the puzzles
and then apply for a job.
When you got the job, join the Amiga team that to my knowledge is 2 or 3 persons.
That is the most effective way to get things happen.
I have talked to a lot of former Amiga coders but unless spotify match their current salary they
don't quit their current job.
However, this weekend I found a coder that are willing to do that plus Spotify have already contacted
him trying to get him to work there. This is our best shot so far.

Another solution is to become partners with Spotify. This solution will cost some money, but can
be done at http://www.spotify.com/se/work-with-us/partners/

The advantage is that the Amiga brand gets highlighted and we get a proper port.
The disadvantage is that it will probably cost more than the first solution and the current situation
where the different Amiga brands will be confusing to people.
Lets say A-Eon pays for the port. Then CUSA will gain from this aswell since they have licensed the name Amiga.

So... if you are an unemployed Amiga coder that can code java/C++/python and wish to work in a very hip working place, please do apply for jobs.
There is no excuse for a unemployed amiga coder.

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 13:48:44
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@Skuggan

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The advantage is that the Amiga brand gets highlighted and we get a proper port.
The disadvantage is that it will probably cost more than the first solution and the current situation
where the different Amiga brands will be confusing to people.
Lets say A-Eon pays for the port. Then CUSA will gain from this aswell since they have licensed the name Amiga.


Could you explain this differently. I'm not understanding the connection here due to the difference between Amiga and AmigaOS. Are you saying the approach is based on who you think holds a license or ownership?

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 15:09:26
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@number6

I forgot some words in that sentence.

To the normal person (old Amiga users or my mother) they don't know the difference between a CUSA machine, classic, AmigaNG and AmigaOS.
So if someone invests money in one of these brands/names the other will get a piece of the action to.

Maybe nothing bad in that but it confuses people.

Even some of the guys at Spotify got confused. One of them even confused the amiga with the C64. Thats how bad it is. Thats why we need a Amiga guy on the inside. One that will do all the normal PC/Mac coding but will commit to the Amiga during "hack time"/free time.

IF we succeed with Spotify we can approach the next company.

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 15:11:10
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@Skuggan

Thank you for clarifying.

I realize this is difficult. Even within the AmigaOS side we've seen rebranding as well. Sam to AmigaOne 500 springs to mind. Then there is the desire to -not- have to rebrand in the first place. Then there is CUSA rebranding Vic Mini to Amiga Mio, to go along with their other policy and naming changes along the way. Then you have the person who felt/feels (based on snapshot in time) HE actually owns the operating system, which is neither Hyperion or Amiga Inc.

One one hand it's humorous, on the other quite disturbing, particularly if you are trying to ease from a hobby into a more businesslike model and establish relationships.
I sympathize with everyone involved in this mess.

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 15:25:21
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@Skuggan

So, in one sentence, you suggest os4 users should hire at spotify to overtake it aftewards? In my life ive never heard before about such a case except in a romantic epos. My expectation is, that usually after you have applied and eventually got hired you will be given an asignment rather than being asked what you would like to do yourself. But world changes, who knows what will be next.

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Skuggan 
Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 15:45:42
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@wawa

No you got it all wrong.
Let me explain it in detail.
A AmigaOS4 user is a normal person, A living human lifeform.
A AmigaOS4 coder is also a person but with coding skills.

This person apply for a job as a PC/Mac-coder at Spotify doing NORMAL work.
Lets say 99% PC/MAC work. But when this person who is also a AmigaOS4 coder gets
the chance to do other work during paid working hours AND on this persons free time it
can do some coding on the installed Sam460.

It will ofcourse NOT be 99% amiga coding. More like 1% amiga coding.

So... of course . This Amiga Coder must be willing to do PC/MAC coding.

Must I explain this in code?

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Tomas 
Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 16:01:15
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@Skuggan
Good to hear you have at least not given up.

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 16:01:29
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@Skuggan

@Skuggan

"Must I explain this in code?"

depends on the language, or written in Assembler?

I understand what you say but when I read "the bounty was a success" what do you mean exactly. That they are interested to support AmigaOS or that there is just one computer standing at a corner (without anyone using it)?

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NutsAboutAmiga 
Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 16:20:39
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@Skuggan

Lets say applied for job at Spotify do I need to move to Sweden?

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 16:29:25
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@Skuggan

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Even some of the guys at Spotify got confused. One of them even confused the amiga with the C64. Thats how bad it is. Thats why we need a Amiga guy on the inside. One that will do all the normal PC/Mac coding but will commit to the Amiga during "hack time"/free time.

IF we succeed with Spotify we can approach the next company.

i take it, then, that unless spotify can find a potential hire that also has amiga experience, the port won't happen? am i reading between the lines incorrectly?

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Posted on 6-Aug-2012 16:37:50
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@eliyahu

Yes that was option A), and option B was again?

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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go
Posted on 6-Aug-2012 16:47:21
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@NutsAboutAmiga

I do not think that there is a "plan B"

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Posted on 6-Aug-2012 16:48:38
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@OlafS25

Trying to become a business partner.

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