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1Mouse 
Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 19-May-2012 13:01:26
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So can I add an SLB to my 500GB drive without losing the information on there?

Can I change sii3114ide to add the second HD?

A list of commands doesn't really help me, can you suggest the actual commands needed?

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 19-May-2012 13:17:41
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@1Mouse

I just attached a second Harddrive to my Sam440ep-Flex to verify for you .

From a Cli after you boot from the CD set the following Uboot variables (assuming you have the second hard drive connected to the sata port on the same side as the first hard drive) ,using the nvsetvar command.

nvsetvar s4sii_maxbus=2
nvsetvar sii3114ide_conf=1102
nvsetvar sii3114ide_xfer=GG0F

then turn your computer off then back on again.

Last edited by Spectre660 on 19-May-2012 at 01:20 PM.
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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 19-May-2012 13:30:34
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@1Mouse

Yes.. you can boot from the CDROM, and use disk recovery tools and install the SLB to the partition using mediatoolbox, how ever it might be that its trying to load the SLB from wrong hard-drive, if you now have two.

SETENV BOOT1 CDROM
boota

or some thing like that.

You should also check out printenv command in uboot.

The command “resetenv” should set you computer back to factory default if you have messed up too many things and don't remember what.

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 19-May-2012 13:39:07
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@Spectre660

The two HD are connected to the board next to each other, booted from the CD opened shell and typed in the 3 commands.

Took out the CD and booted and while booting it recognises the 500gb drive and the CD but not the 160gb.

Then I get an error:
no SLB found in any of the designated boot sources; returning to u-boot.

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 19-May-2012 14:08:21
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@1Mouse

Check you cables and power and double check the Uboot settings.


The connections shoul be like this


Empty | 500GB
CD | 160GB

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 19-May-2012 19:07:56
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@1Mouse

Could you give us your parameters obtained with nvgetvar ?

As I knwo, when you have the error "slb not found", it could be explained by the fact UBoot tries to "mount" (not correct word) your disks with the bad driver for example it sees hard disks like ide ones and not sata ones. Juste a thought.

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 15:41:27
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@Yescop

Here's my startup from uboot:

baudrate=115200
loads_echo=1
stdout=vga
stdin=usbkbd
ide_doreset=on
ide_reset_timeout=10
ide_cd_timeout=20
menucmd=menu
boot_method=boota
ethaddr=00:50:C2:80:d1:14
eth1addr=00:50:c2:80:d1:15
boot_config=Default
ethact=ppc_4xx_eth0
video_activate=internal
ipaddr=xxx.xxx.x.x
serverip=xxx.xxx.x.x
bootcmd=menu; run menuboot_cmd
boota_timeout=5
menuboot_delay=5
sii0680ide_conf=1002
sii0680ide_xfer=gggg
boot2=
boot3=
boot1=s4siicdrom
0s4_commandline=debuglevel=0
bootargs=root=/dev/sda3
s4sii_maxbus=2
sii3114ide_conf=1102
sii3114ide_xfer=gg0f
menuboot_cmd=boota

How would I go about changing this so that it can access 2 HDs.

Also are there any amends that would speedup startup?

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 16:04:54
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@1Mouse

set this from CLI to set your Harddrive as the second boot device

nvsetvar boot2=s4sii .

Why do you have sii0680ide settings for a SAM ?

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 16:12:49
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@Spectre660

I also need settings for my second HD, can the settings be changed in uboot?

"Why do you have sii0680ide settings for a SAM?" NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS

When it comes to uboot commands I'm completely lost.
When it comes to CLI commands I'm completely lost.

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 17:05:28
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@thread

So, this is why IDE-SATA adapter did not enable me to use second hard drive.

(oh, those times with true working autoconfig etc...)

+ WE NEED NEW KICKSTART ROM!!!

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 17:12:20
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@1Mouse

The second harddrive will not be bootable but will show up in Amiga OS 4.1 once set up properly .You can only have two bootable devices attached via SATA on a Sam . The CD/DVD and one harddrive.

I believe the sii0680ide settings are for an Amigaone with a sii0680 card attached so should not be on a Sam unless you have Sii0680 pci card attached.


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1Mouse wrote:
@Spectre660

I also need settings for my second HD, can the settings be changed in uboot?

"Why do you have sii0680ide settings for a SAM?" NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS

When it comes to uboot commands I'm completely lost.
When it comes to CLI commands I'm completely lost.

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 17:15:51
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@KimmoK

You lost me here.

The magic on a Sam is to enable both pairs of SATA connectors in Uboot.

setenv s4sii_maxbus=2


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@thread

So, this is why IDE-SATA adapter did not enable me to use second hard drive.

(oh, those times with true working autoconfig etc...)

+ WE NEED NEW KICKSTART ROM!!!

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 17:32:05
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@Spectre660

I'm aware I can only have two bootable devices, however no matter which SATA port I attach the second hard drive to it's not reconised by uboot.

If sii0680ide is not needed by Sam then how do I delete from my uboot?

If I'm right I need to amend sii3114ide_config & sii3114ide_xfer

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 17:34:26
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@1Mouse

you need to check for the second drive via media toolbox .

If it has not been preped in the Amiga way it wont show up on your workbench .

I think that I will become a lurker from now on so bye guys. Its been nice.


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@Spectre660

I'm aware I can only have two bootable devices, however no matter which SATA port I attach the second hard drive to it's not reconised by uboot.

If sii0680ide is not needed by Sam then how do I delete from my uboot?

If I'm right I need to amend sii3114ide_config & sii3114ide_xfer

Last edited by Spectre660 on 22-May-2012 at 05:37 PM.

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 18:54:07
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@1Mouse

Well I didn't see anything wrong except in ss0680ide. As said before, it isn't necessary.
To remove them, just in Uboot,
set sii0680ide_conf
and nothing after.
In my config, I have os4_commandline=

After booting, go into mediatool box to see if your hd is known, then format quick it.

To speed up booting, you can decrease menuboot_delay to 2 and may be ide_cd_timeout to 10.

Hope that will work now.

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 22-May-2012 19:39:25
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@Yescop

I'm doing a complete back-up at the moment, so will try later

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 24-May-2012 11:07:27
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@Spectre660

I've done a back-up and started via my update 1 CD however the second HD does not show in MediaToolbox.

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 24-May-2012 11:34:23
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@1Mouse

Are both Harddrives connected to the Sata ports towards the Right side of the Motherboard ?

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 24-May-2012 11:41:18
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@Spectre660

Yep, side by side on the mobo

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Re: Extra Storage on Sam440ep
Posted on 24-May-2012 11:49:30
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@1Mouse

You got me then once the second drive is working and has power and sata connected .
I attached a second drive and changed 3 Uboot settings and the second drive showed up in Media toolbox .

s4sii_maxbus=2
sii3114ide_conf=1102
sii3114ide_xfer=GG0F

Also I have the following boot option in Uboot

boot1=usb
boot2=s4siicdrom
boot3=s4sii


Edit try this from cli and see how drives are attached

idetool -l sii3114ide.device


output looks something like this with one harddrive and 1 DVD drive

-------------------Unit 0 information------------------------
Flags : $00000187 - present, LBA48 used, supports DMA, ATA, supports cache flush, interrupts used,
Xfer mode : best pio 12 (PIO 4, 16 MB/s) / best dma 70 (UDMA 6, 133 MB/s) / current 70 (UDMA 6, 133 MB/s)
Total blocks : 976773168
Blocksize : 512
Power mode : 2 / idle (ready for operation)
IO1 / IO2 / BMCR @ : $2000 / $200A / $2020
*** Error opening device sii3114ide.device / unit 1
*** Error opening device sii3114ide.device / unit 2
-------------------Unit 3 information------------------------
Flags : $0000011D - present, supports DMA, removable media, ATAPI, interrupts used,
Xfer mode : best pio 12 (PIO 4, 16 MB/s) / best dma 69 (UDMA 5, 100 MB/s) / current 69 (UDMA 5, 100 MB/s)
Total blocks : 0
Blocksize : 0
SCSI devtyp : 5
Packet size : 12
Current medium read speed : x 65535 ('65535' stands for max.)
Current medium write speed : x 65535 (idem)
Power mode : 2 / idle (ready for operation)
IO1 / IO2 / BMCR @ : $2010 / $201A / $2028

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Last edited by Spectre660 on 24-May-2012 at 11:55 AM.
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