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Nimrod 
Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 27-Nov-2012 19:00:47
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Equality already exists
No it doesn't, and I will demonstrate one of the inequalities When a woman marries and chooses to take her husbands surname she can change the name on her bank account by showing her marriage documents. For a couple in a civil partnership the documents are not sufficient to do this and the name would have to be changed by deed poll. Another difference is that opposite-sex couples can opt for a religious or civil marriage ceremony as they choose, whereas formation of a civil partnership will be an exclusively civil procedure. This is despite the fact that some religious groups have expressed a willingness to perform same gender marriages.

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The Daily Mail: 118 plus Tory MPs set to support Marriage
This is not news, I posted a link to it here. Incidentally, I notice that they have deleted the list of names, not that it matters, I kept a copy of the list so that I can remind any of the politicians on the list when they get caught with their trousers down.

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ComRes found that 62 per cent of voters and 68 per cent of Tory supporters believe marriage should continue to be defined as a ‘life-long exclusive commitment between a man and a woman’.
You keep parroting this phrase, but is it because you want to impose your prejudices and hate on the homosexuals, or because you believe that extramarital sexual activity warrants a death sentence. I'm only asking so that I know what should happen to the next MP caught making unparliamentary use of his secretary.

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 27-Nov-2012 22:33:19
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@Nimrod

Maybe we should have a referendum and see how many liberal voters bother to vote.

Telegraph: Majority of voters favour a referendum on gay marriage

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In total 54 per cent agreed with the statement that “given the controversy over legalising same-sex marriage it should be decided by a national referendum and not just a House of Commons vote.” Of those 23 per cent agreed strongly.

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 27-Nov-2012 22:43:01
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Boring. Isn't this thread locked yet? How about going off and doing something interesting with an Amiga instead? BigD is a died in the wool god botherer (brain damaged/delusional) so no matter what's said to him, he will keep playing the same record. You can't reason with irrational thinkers.

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 28-Nov-2012 4:16:24
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@BigD

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Maybe we should have a referendum and see how many liberal voters bother to vote.


First you were bitching about the 3.7 million pound cost, now you want a referendum that will cost 50+ times that amount?

Make up your mind. You've been moving the goalposts so much in this thread you've forgotten what it was you were originally opposed to!

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 28-Nov-2012 18:48:47
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Maybe we should have a referendum and see how many liberal voters bother to vote.


First you were bitching about the 3.7 million pound cost, now you want a referendum that will cost 50+ times that amount?

Make up your mind. You've been moving the goalposts so much in this thread you've forgotten what it was you were originally opposed to!
I think it is the ending of his privileged status that he opposes.

Either that or "Progress"

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 28-Nov-2012 18:59:34
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@BigD

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@Nimrod

Maybe we should have a referendum and see how many liberal voters bother to vote.

Telegraph: Majority of voters favour a referendum on gay marriage

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In total 54 per cent agreed with the statement that “given the controversy over legalising same-sex marriage it should be decided by a national referendum and not just a House of Commons vote.” Of those 23 per cent agreed strongly.


Does anyone know if there's a medical name for someone like BigDafty whom obviously has a bizarre fetish for polls...

Pollmaniac !!!

Pollparanoia !!!

Pollophile !!!

There has to be some sort of "proper" name for his condition, then we could look it up and perhaps understand just what he is suffering from, can't be easy for him... the poor nutter...

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 28-Nov-2012 20:12:59
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@Franko

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Does anyone know if there's a medical name for someone like BigDafty whom obviously has a bizarre fetish for polls...
The Bizarre Fetish is from this he demands we do only as the majority says. The problem with this view is it leads quickly into the Tyranny of the Majority. At that point the rights and freedoms of minorities are squashed. We see this directly in BigD's view that Gays can of course marry, just don't be gay. Or in other words give up your minority and join the majority and you too can have the same 'equality' as the majority. It's hogwash.

The sort of Mobocracy control of society was clearly one thing the US Founding Fathers tried to avoid by having a Democratically elected Representative government. Part of the thought was the masses shouldn't squash the minorities. But, instead we should be striving to create a society where 'all men are created equal' and treated equally under the eyes of the law.

As for the UK - I don't know enough to speak about that but somehow I don't think your Government was created such that popular Mobs get the right to extinguish the minority's existence.

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
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Pray away the Gay? Or just a Christian pastor's sexual playground?
http://www.startribune.com/local/north/177906901.html?refer=y

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
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Pray away the Gay? Or just a Christian pastor's sexual playground?
http://www.startribune.com/local/north/177906901.html?refer=y


Gawd... I'd laugh at that if it weren't so sick...

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 2-Dec-2012 19:32:43
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@BigD

Human Evolution continues and accelerates

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 3-Dec-2012 23:28:47
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This is where BigotD would find some friends. Some of the morons commenting on this YouTube video seem right up his bigoted street.


christopher hitchens defends gay friend

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
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@A1200

Who is Christopher Hitchens !!!

I like his patter but don't have a scooby who he actually is or what he is "famous" for (if anything)...

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 4-Dec-2012 0:20:12
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@Franko

He is a writer/editor/journalist. In his later years, he become somewhat of a poster boy for atheism. Watch more clips with him, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett and Richard Dawkins to name but a few. Lots of articulate ways to summarise the stupidity of belief in a deity. I would think you will like Christopher Hitchen's the best, as, like a Scotsman he calls a spade a spade.

If you want some more comical approaches to the subject. My two favourites are from George Carlin and your fellow countryman, Billy Connolly.

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 4-Dec-2012 13:08:56
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@Franko

Chris "Hitch" Hitchens was one of those rare people you might describe as having a "fierce wit". A truly "once in a generation" mind.

He has has been controversial at times, and has changed his mind on certain issues (although as a rationalist, this must have been on the basis of evidence).

He died earlier this year (or late last year - can't recall) and it was fairly big news when it happened.

AndyC

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 4-Dec-2012 13:47:52
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@A1200 & AndyC

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@Franko
George Carlin


That was pure class...

Always thought I was alone with my views about religion and that some of the things I say about it were extreme but that guy just reinforced my belief that , hey I'm normal after all and there are other wise people out there who don't believe in the almighty invisible man and the multinational conglomerate that fleeces the gullible out of their dosh... The Church...

Need to have a wee look round and find out more about these folk you mentioned, nice to be able to listen to like minded sensible people on the internet for once... cheers guys...

Wait till I show the squirrels those videos...

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 4-Dec-2012 17:57:53
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@Franko

I never get tired of listing to comedy/debates/monologues about religion on YouTube. There is loads out there.

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 6-Dec-2012 22:08:41
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One week ago today the Leveson report into the ethics (or lack of them) of the press, and how their culture of illegality and lies was accepted and ignored by the police and political parties. When our glorious leader decided to declare his intention to ignore this report a petition was started. Unlike the C4M petition it has not been trumpeted by the Mail or Telegraph, in fact these and other papers have either ignored it, or sought to discredit it, claiming that they do not need to be accountable for their activities.
The C4M petition has been championed by organised religion, politicians, and the press for over a year to acheive its current total, the Hacked off petition has been in existence for one week, ignored or denigrated by press and politicians alike, and contrary to what The Scum claims, not all of the signatures are from Donald Duck, but what does that rag know about "The Truth". I also haven't heard of any support for this from the churches who should have been at the forefront of condemning the activities examined by Leveson.

140000 signatures in one week against the wishes of the press is far more representative of a popular sentiment than a year long press campaign scoring 617000.

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Re: Gay Civil Marriage In UK at a cost of 3.7 million Updated - you can sign petition after reading, if you want!
Posted on 7-Dec-2012 19:25:55
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Sorry to bump the thread, but this doesn't fit on my nice thread, but it fits here nicely (See what I did there?)

The Daily Mail Song

And a bonus!

Daily Mail Island

Last edited by SpaceDruid on 07-Dec-2012 at 07:33 PM.

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@SpaceDruid

I looked at those two gems when BigD first started quoting the Daily Mail.

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US Supreme Court to hear their first gay marriage case

For 30+ years the Supreme Court has been conservative. If the conservative members of the court are Libertarian it's likely gay marriage will be upheld as legal.

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