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Moxee wrote: @Franko Quote: As you obviously have no data on the drive that you're bothered about losing then I would suggest you simply try to install & format the drive using only SFS partitions... Yes, I tried that yesterday to no avail. I wonder if I should remove all information and start over with a fresh HD install.

Drat... well if you've already tried that and it didn't work using only SFS then it could very well be a faulty drive...

I'd give it one more go though from scratch but this time create 3 or 4 partitions using the entire size of the drive...

After all there's not much point in having a 320GB drive and only using 40GB's of it, as in the future you may want to use the entire drive only to find out it had faults on the part you hadn't used before...

PS:make sure you only use SFS this time across the entire drive...

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One last hope here...

I've just dug out an old 160GB HD that's formatted with SFS (i don't have any that are 320GB)...

I could send you it's RDB and the small CLI/ Shell util that will allow you to write this RDB to your drive. It will at least let you know if the drive is working up to 160GB in size...

It's easy and quick enough to do and I'll explain the steps which are quite simple and hopefully at least you will then know that your drive is working or not...

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I'll have to continue this tomorrow. It's been a lousy day! I am tired, cranky, and hungry.

My driveway gate fell of the track this morning when I went out to fetch my newspaper. No problem, a few tools and some time and I had it rolling again.

Then when I was using my electric hedge trimmer a neighbor sneaked up behind me and spooked me. I jumped and got the trimmer caught in my chain link fence. It took some time to release it and now it only hums.

While trying to release the trimmer I disturbed a wasp nest in the hedge and I had to run for it. The only bright spot in my day was that the wasps went after my neighbor instead of me. Sic 'em!

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Gawd... never mind have a Hamlet instead...

Happiness Is...

The old Scottish Bluebells Matches advert (Lucky White Heather) would have been perfect for this occasion but sadly it's nowhere to be found on YouTube... (Think I'll have a Hamlet instead)...

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It is a Western Digital Caviar Blue 320 GB PATA drive.

I bought a western digital drive for my Aone when I had it. It didn't work properly, whilst I could format it was never reliable, it just disappear from the system, whilst in use. I took it back to the shop and they replaced it for seagate without question (so little question that I wandered if western digital had a bad rep in the wider computing world)

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@Moxee

Wow, & here I thought I only had those kind of days.

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While trying to release the trimmer I disturbed a wasp nest in the hedge and I had to run for it. The only bright spot in my day was that the wasps went after my neighbor instead of me. Sic 'em!

Sorry about your day, but that part has me in stiches after reading it. I needed a good laugh after my day.

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@Moxee

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've never had this type of problem before either. I am beginning to believe that I've got a faulty drive.

I seem to recall others had problems with Wwestern Digital HDs on A1's. I've always stuck with Seagates, have 2 in the micro & 1 in the X1000 for backup. I would exchange it for another brand if you can

The X1000 is a lot easier to add drives to vs the A1's, no uboot crap.

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One last hope here... I've just dug out an old 160GB HD that's formatted with SFS (i don't have any that are 320GB)... I could send you it's RDB and the small CLI/ Shell util that will allow you to write this RDB to your drive. It will at least let you know if the drive is working up to 160GB in size... It's easy and quick enough to do and I'll explain the steps which are quite simple and hopefully at least you will then know that your drive is working or not...

I'd like to try that, but first I think I'll try starting over from scratch, then making the drive just one SFS0 partition to find out if it will format the whole drive.

If that works I'll try making several SFS0 partitions to fill out the drive as you suggested.

If that works I'll try to re-size the partitions to suit my needs, but keeping the whole drive partitioned.

If none of these works I'm driving into town this morning to return the drive. The trouble with that is the store only had 2 PATA drives and both were WD 320 GB. If they don't have any new arrivals I guess I'll have to get a credit or refund and go elsewhere.

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Quote: I disturbed a wasp nest in the hedge and I had to run for it. The only bright spot in my day was that the wasps went after my neighbor instead of me. Sic 'em! Sorry about your day, but that part has me in stiches after reading it. I needed a good laugh after my day.

I guess it served Leonard right for sneaking up behind me. The sad part is that I've been trying to smooth over with Leonard my taking of 7 feet width of what he thought was his property along 200 feet of our common boundry. A survey I had done in 2009 showed that he was using that 7 ft wide by 200 ft length section of my property for years. They were really upset about it and after 3 years were just getting over that shock enough to finally be friends again. I hope that the wasp episode doesn't set that back.

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Moxee wrote: @Franko If none of these works I'm driving into town this morning to return the drive. The trouble with that is the store only had 2 PATA drives and both were WD 320 GB. If they don't have any new arrivals I guess I'll have to get a credit or refund and go elsewhere.

Hopefully it'll work as sadly PATA/IDE drives are in the final stage of being phased out of manufacture just like SCSI drives have been for the past two years...

Other than old warehouse stock and second hand drives the future only leaves SATA drives for us to play with and they call that progress...

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I bought a western digital drive for my Aone when I had it. It didn't work properly, whilst I could format it was never reliable, it just disappear from the system, whilst in use. I took it back to the shop and they replaced it for seagate without question (so little question that I wandered if western digital had a bad rep in the wider computing world)

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I seem to recall others had problems with Wwestern Digital HDs on A1's. I've always stuck with Seagates, have 2 in the micro & 1 in the X1000 for backup. I would exchange it for another brand if you can The X1000 is a lot easier to add drives to vs the A1's, no uboot crap.

All I've ever used is Western Digital HDs in my XE, two PATA HDs and two SATA HDs.

I was using the WD SATA drives as main and back-up until some time back the A1 decided that it did not want to boot off the SATA HD any more. That is when I went back to booting off the on board Via and disconnected the boot SATA. I still use the other SATA HD. I suppose I could forget about using the PATA HD as a back-up and use my boot SATA HD as a back-up.

My curiosity is such that I want to know why this WD PATA HD won't format more than one partition so I'll probably keep up the investigation either way.

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Hopefully it'll work as sadly PATA/IDE drives are in the final stage of being phased out of manufacture just like SCSI drives have been for the past two years... Other than old warehouse stock and second hand drives the future only leaves SATA drives for us to play with and they call that progress...

That is what I was thinking. I guess I'll have to find out why my SATA drive stopped booting some time back. Was there a problem with the OS that has been corrected in a later OS Update?

I am off to test the drive. Be back shortly.

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Well, this is odd. When trying to format the whole drive as one SFS0 partition I receive this notice: The Disk is Full!

Then I tried making 4 SFS0 partitions and not one of them will format.

This thing is being returned now.

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Moxee wrote: @thread Well, this is odd. When trying to format the whole drive as one SFS0 partition I receive this notice: The Disk is Full! Then I tried making 4 SFS0 partitions and not one of them will format. This thing is being returned now.

SFS0 can only work on partitions up to 128GB in size...

From The SFS Docs...

o Supports partitions of up to 128 GB (DOSType 'SFS\0', for 'SFS\2'
partitions the limit is 1 TB, but it can be more depending on the
blocksize, with 32KB/Block it's 64 TB).


You should have used SFS2 which can handle bigger drives...

http://strohmayer.org/

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SFS0 can only work on partitions up to 128GB in size... From The SFS Docs... o Supports partitions of up to 128 GB (DOSType 'SFS\0', for 'SFS\2' partitions the limit is 1 TB, but it can be more depending on the blocksize, with 32KB/Block it's 64 TB). You should have used SFS2 which can handle bigger drives... http://strohmayer.org/

Rats! OK I can see this using one partition on the whole drive, but why didn't the format work on the 2nd try with 4 partitions under that limit.

LATER:
OK, I did it all over again using SFS2 and still no joy! On my way to town!

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I am back now with a replacement HD. It is identical to the drive I returned and the last one on the shelf. I hope this one works out. The town seems to be out of PATA drives.

Reading Toaks' - Smart File System, Walkthrough - I find out that there are two versions of SLB. I did not know this.

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1.1. If you want your drive to be fully SFS (all partitions including boot) you will need to use the slb_V2 1.2. If You want your drive to be mixed with various file systems (e.g., Linux/MOL and OS4) and for boot partition FFS then use the SLB that supports all modes (it's on the pre-release CD (slb_v2 1.8b), the one on later CDs will not work)

I've been using the one pointed to in Media Toolbox all this time. Which ever version that is. Looks like I should have been using slb_v2 1.8b since I had a mix of SFS0 and JFX4 partitions. Or do they not consider these two file systems as a mixture?

Also wondering if I should just use SFS2 in all of my partitions.

What file system is everyone else using in their partitions?

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I use both of the ones from the authors site on for both OS 3.x and OS 4.0 on my drives and they work fine (although I did change to the PPC version that came with OS4.0 later on)...

http://strohmayer.org/

I would recommend you use SFS2 partitons and not SFS0 especially if your going to make large partitions and it's the only one that will let you save large single files of over 4GB in size which is handy for burning/ storing DVDs...

Also since using SFS2 partitions I have never lost a single bit of data or had any problems with it in the past 5 years...

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What file system is everyone else using in their partitions?

I use SFS\0 on boot partitions (500MB) & SFS\2 for all others, block size of 512 for both. Using slb v2 version 1.16, might be a newer one, but think it was linux related, so never changed it.

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I would recommend you use SFS2 partitons and not SFS0 especially if your going to make large partitions and it's the only one that will let you save large single files of over 4GB in size which is handy for burning/ storing DVDs...

That by itself is worth if!

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Also since using SFS2 partitions I have never lost a single bit of data or had any problems with it in the past 5 years...

That is a ringing endorsement.

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I use SFS\0 on boot partitions (500MB) & SFS\2 for all others, block size of 512 for both. Using slb v2 version 1.16, might be a newer one, but think it was linux related, so never changed it.

My L:sib_v2 reports version 1.19. That is the file Media Toolbox points to. I don't see any reason to change it. It's been working fine all these years. Well, it might not be the same file if one of the Updates changed it along the way.

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