@Moxee

What speed have you configured the disk for?? UDMA133, or SATA150 och SATA300 or whatever the settings are? Try lowering the speed. Random illogical errors like this can often be explain by too high transfer speed.

I can't use UDMA133 for my 160GB UDMA133 disk for example. I have to use UDMA100 otherwise I get silly errors and nothing works, kind of what you are seeing.

The disk can rarely do it's top theoretical speed anyway so no harm in lowering one step.

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@sundown

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I use SFS\0 on boot partitions (500MB) & SFS\2 for all others, block size of 512 for both. Using slb v2 version 1.16, might be a newer one, but think it was linux related, so never changed it.

I just checked and find that my boot drive is using slb_v2 version 1.16 just as yours is.

The slb_v2 in my L directory is version 1.19. Could version 1.19 be the source of my problems? That doesn't seem likely or there would have been a large scream from the community already, but I wonder.

I copied 1.16 to a file so I can install it later if need be on the new drive. Guess I will hold off on prepping this drive until I receive some opinions about whether 1.19 has some bugs or not.

Is anyone reading this using slb_v2 version 1.19 without problems?

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@Moxee

Using 1.19 here since ages - up to now no problems...(Samsung HD).

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@Deniil715

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What speed have you configured the disk for?? UDMA133, or SATA150 och SATA300 or whatever the settings are? Try lowering the speed. Random illogical errors like this can often be explain by too high transfer speed.

I've never tried to change the HD speed before. I've just left all of my HDs at what ever the factory setting is. Off hand I don't even see a place to do that in Media Toolbox. Of course I still have not installed (set up) the drive yet. I am still waiting for input about what version of the slb_v2 to use.

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I can't use UDMA133 for my 160GB UDMA133 disk for example. I have to use UDMA100 otherwise I get silly errors and nothing works, kind of what you are seeing. The disk can rarely do it's top theoretical speed anyway so no harm in lowering one step.

I can understand that. I don't see any specs of that kind on the box or in the printed material inclosed. Maybe it is printed on the HD label, but I can't read that label after it is secured in place. I don't want to remove the HD again since each time I have to take out the RAM card which blocks it. Knowing my luck I'll eventually spark out the RAM.

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@cha05e90

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Using 1.19 here since ages - up to now no problems...(Samsung HD).

That is encouraging news. Thank you!

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@Moxee

LATER:
I used 1.19 and SFS on all partitions. The first partition formatted fine, BUT the 2nd partition refused to format. What is going on here? Reminds me of Nancy Carrigan, "Why me! Why me!"

I need a break! I'm going outside to finished trimming my hedge. I bought a new trimmer so I hope that works without complications.

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Hello Moxee

have you checked if the 2nd partition is setup correctly? (same Mask, MaxTransfer and dosbuffers as the first one)

You should check also if the 2nd partition is set with SFS as well (you can have different filesystems on different partitions).

If all the above are correct, try to reduce the size of the 2nd partition to 100GB

Good luck!

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@Moxee

All I've ever used is Western Digital HDs in my XE, two PATA HDs...

Same here! They work perfectly. I hope you didn't forget to jumper your new drive to "Master Select". "CableS Select" doesn't work...

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@Snuffy

Hi,

My new 250 GB HD is a Western Digital too. I tried with partition sizes way below the limit (20 GB, then 4 GB).
Regarding interface speed, I'm in a particular case I think. I lowered the FSB of my micro down to 100MHz years ago because I could not find a working memory module at 133MHz ; and I'm using best PIO because for some reason with UDMA activated the first 32 bytes of each access are always garbage (confirmed with ADRipper on ATAPI accesses some time ago as well). So UDMA cannot be blamed as far as I'm concerned.

@Framiga

I'd been using SFS0 for my boot partition for ages without problems so I followed sundown's advice and continued with SFS0 for the boot partition. I followed Franko's advice and used SFS2 for the other partitions.

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have you checked if the 2nd partition is setup correctly? (same Mask, MaxTransfer and dosbuffers as the first one)

I left all of the default settings untouched, except I changed the boot partition to 1000 buffers since my old boot partition was that figure. The other partitions are the default 600. I read somewhere that 600 buffers for the boot partition was not enough. So you are telling me that all of the partitions on a single HD are suppose to contain all the same settings?

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You should check also if the 2nd partition is set with SFS as well (you can have different filesystems on different partitions).

Boot partition - SFS0
All other partitions - SFS2

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If all the above are correct, try to reduce the size of the 2nd partition to 100GB

I guess I'll have to match up the buffers. That is the only thing now which is different.

Thanks.

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@Moxee

The X1000 uses a different "BIOS" than the A1-XE so I can't tell you exactly how to change the speed but on the XE it is done in U-Boot (the "BIOS"), or by using the UBoot prefs which has been deprecated, and would be completely irrelevant for you having an X1000.

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@Snuffy

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Quote: All I've ever used is Western Digital HDs in my XE, two PATA HDs... Same here! They work perfectly. I hope you didn't forget to jumper your new drive to "Master Select". "CableS Select" doesn't work...

Actually, I'll be using my new HD as a back-up drive to start with. Later I'll get another HD for the main HD. Both of my PATA HDs were quite old. I've got to get this figured out soon so I'll be ready when my boot drive dies. I'll probably have to mail order a PATA drive since they are getting difficult to find here locally.

So yes, I did make sure the jumpers were set correctly: master with slave and slave. Thanks for asking that.

I also seem to remember there was a time when the master had to be at the end of the ribbon cable. Or am I wrong? I tried it both ways and it did not seem to matter where the HDs were located.

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@Deniil715

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The X1000 uses a different "BIOS" than the A1-XE so I can't tell you exactly how to change the speed but on the XE it is done in U-Boot (the "BIOS"), or by using the UBoot prefs which has been deprecated, and would be completely irrelevant for you having an X1000.

Oh, that is where it is. I knew I saw it somewhere. I tend to forget things which I don't use often. Thanks.

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@Framiga

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have you checked if the 2nd partition is setup correctly? (same Mask, MaxTransfer and dosbuffers as the first one)

OK, I just tried it with your suggestion of all the partitions having the same settings. It still won't format any partitions other than the first one.

Could there be something wrong with the format program?

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@Moxee

Im not sure yet (as you haven't said) if you've got the replacement drive installed but anyway if you have and your still having problems then the best thing to do would be for me or someone else here to email you a copy of a known working RDB...

As you know I only use "Classic" hardware and I'm not quite sure what your using but I think it's an OS4 machine of some type...

The closest drive size RDB I could send you is one for a 160GB HD formatted in one single partition which is not ideal, all my other drives are smaller except for my two main drives which are 500GB and the RDB from those would be no use to you...

I think the drive size your using is 320GB ???

Surely someone here has a working drive of a similar or close size that they could send you their RDB from (c'mon guys one of you must be using a similar sized drive) but if not if you PM me with an email address I'll send you the one for my 160GB HD...

It takes less than a couple of minutes to read or write an RDB and at least this way we will be able to figure out if your doing something wrong as writing a known working RDB to your drive should work and if it doesn't then the problem lies in something your doing or a fault with the hardware or cabling...

It's worth a try and at least it will help to hopefully get to the bottom of your problem here as it shouldn't take this long to figure out what's wrong...

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@Deniil715

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The X1000 uses a different "BIOS" than the A1-XE so I can't tell you exactly how to change the speed

UDMA on the x1000 is auto set to max for the drive. Sata's are set for 133MB/s, pata's set for 100MB/s by the kickstart drivers.

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@Moxee

You do have the block size set at 512 for each partition & "automount" ticked on, right? Buffer setting has nothing to do with formatting, make sure you save the setting to disk before you quit MTB, it'll show the drive as "modified" if you don't.

Are all the partitions showing on the WB for you to format?

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@Franko

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Im not sure yet (as you haven't said) if you've got the replacement drive installed

Yes, I connected it up yesterday and installed it earlier today.

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but anyway if you have and your still having problems then the best thing to do would be for me or someone else here to email you a copy of a known working RDB...

Maybe so.

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As you know I only use "Classic" hardware and I'm not quite sure what your using but I think it's an OS4 machine of some type...

AmigaOne XE G4 (original unmodified Motherboard)

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I think the drive size your using is 320GB ???

Western Digital Caviar Blue 320 GB PATA 7200 RPM

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@sundown

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You do have the block size set at 512 for each partition & "automount" ticked on, right?

Yes, Block Size 512 on each partition. Automount is it ticked on each partition.

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Buffer setting has nothing to do with formatting,

So you can have different buffer sizes on each partition?

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make sure you save the setting to disk before you quit MTB, it'll show the drive as "modified" if you don't.

Yes, I've been saving to disk.

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Are all the partitions showing on the WB for you to format?

Yes, all the partitions are showing on WB as DHx: Uninitialized. I've never seen this before, but there is an open hand on each of the unformatted partition icons almost as if to say Hi.

Thanks for all the questions.

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@Moxee

Yeah, buffer is like a file cache, you can add buffers to a partition in a shell to test copy speed & change it in MTB without re-formating. I use 600 on the boot partition & 1000 on the rest.

If the volumes show on the WB, then you select each, one at a time, & format them. Sounds like the settings are right if they show.

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