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djnick 
Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
Posted on 15-Jun-2012 21:52:39
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Just to add:

I tried to type

run >NIL: c:NoMenuKey

Program works great from Shell.

But when put it into UserstartUp, so it shows like this:

;BEGIN MUI
If EXISTS SYS:MUI
C:Assign >NIL: MUI: SYS:MUI
C:Assign >NIL: ADD LIBS: MUI:Libs
C:Assign >NIL: ADD LOCALE: MUI:Locale
C:Assign >NIL: ADD HELP: MUI:Docs

EndIf
;END MUI

run >NIL: c:NoMenyKey


assign tbimages: SYS:Prefs/Presets/tbimages
;BEGIN ArtEffect
ASSIGN ARTEFFECT: AmigaOS:GFX/ArtEffect4-Demo
;END ArtEffect


*** it has no effect and I got error in CLI [during booting] that it can't execute NoMenyKey...

Well thats all about my basic. I am stuck? :)

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
Posted on 15-Jun-2012 21:59:19
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@djnick

About the clock thing. Does the clock start with the same date and time every reboot or is it a continued time. If it isn't a continued time then I'd blame the battery. I'd check battery voltage and/or if it's rightly in place. Be cautios though when handling the board.

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
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@djnick
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Yes, it is my typo. :)

No, it's sicky's typo - it is in *his* var settings...

The quickest way to start your tool through user-startup should be to alter the line from
Quote:
c:NoMenuKey >NIL:

...to:

run >NIL: C:NoMenuKey

EDIT: Ah, I see you worked it out for yourself...check the protection bits of your tool, "rwed" should be set. If not, do "protect C:NoMenuKey rwed" in a shell.

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
Posted on 15-Jun-2012 22:06:08
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Well... I figured it out.

in Startup sequence I type this:

...
If EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIf

LoadWB

Run >NIL: *>NIL: C:SoundPlayer QUIET

Run >NIL: C:NoMenuKey

EndCLI >NIL:
...

and it works! Finally my Win keyboard works! RightAmigaKey is now Alt Gr key :) [Right Alt?] :))))

Strange that I had to figure out myself. Why not write this command line in help / readme file? :)

Ok. Keyboard - done :) Now lets see why I don't see Work: partition.

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
Posted on 15-Jun-2012 22:10:22
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@Zylesea

Well it started where it was last saved. For example if I turned on Amiga 2 days ago and turned off... 5 days later it will continue time from that day.

I did your command line in Shell... Will see how it will show tomorrow.

Well the main problem was strange question I got only once... about timing...?! So I didnt know [neither understood what I am asked to do!?] so I clicked... something... And now I have strange time. I will see tomorrow... :)

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
Posted on 15-Jun-2012 22:14:30
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@djnick

But did you try to set the kbddev_norwin ? instead of using this NoMenuKey program

If you can't see the JXFS partition, it's probably because you don't have JXFS loaded in your kicklayout file. Check that...

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
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@elwood

Sure not. What to type and where? In Dos or in Shell? I type in shell:

setenv kbddev_norwin

and nothing happens?

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
Posted on 15-Jun-2012 23:38:37
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@djnick

1) - Every time I boot Sam 460 ex to AmigaOS4.1 update 4 I have to wait boot sequence to stop and then type command

boota


Because UBoot didn't find:

autostart=yes

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
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@Snuffy

This does not exist in Sam440 and Sam 460 Uboot options.


Quote:

Snuffy wrote:
@djnick

1) - Every time I boot Sam 460 ex to AmigaOS4.1 update 4 I have to wait boot sequence to stop and then type command

boota


Because UBoot didn't find:

autostart=yes

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
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@djnick

you need to set all of these with the Nvsetvar command from OS 4.1 CLI.

Nvsetvar boot1=usb
Nvsetvar boot2=s4siicdrom
Nvsetvar boot3=s4sii
Nvsetvar s4sii_maxbus=1
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_conf=1002
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_timeout=5
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_xfer=G00F

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
Posted on 16-Jun-2012 1:24:00
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@djnick

As per PM, I've posted to Andreas about the Hollywood message see if he has any suggestions.

Back in the OS3.1 days in the startup-sequence was:

MakeDir RAM:T
Assign T: RAM:T

Should this be/Is this in there still?

Update: Yeah Andreas has the same trail of thought. Make sure those two lines are in the start-up sequence somewhere before LoadWB. By default they should be set up, hence why I have no problem here myself.

Last edited by djrikki on 16-Jun-2012 at 01:28 AM.
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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
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@djrikki

just tried inserted those lines before LoadWB & still same message at WB startup

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@Spectre660
Quote:
Nvsetvars s4sii_maxbus=1

It should read "Nvsetvar s4sii_maxbus=1" - there's a "s" to much.

Quote:
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_conf=1002
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_xfer=G00F

These are only true IF his drive configuration is really the same...a quick "idetool -l sii3114ide.device" should solve this riddle.

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
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@djnick
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Run >NIL: C:NoMenuKey

Nevertheless this line should really be called in user-startup and not in the startup-sequence.

Quote:
Strange that I had to figure out myself. Why not write this command line in help / readme file? :)

Because you're hacking and work-arounding a problem that shouldn't exist. You still haven't found a root cause and I can assure you that using this 3rd party tool will some day make problems.

The way you're setting up/manipulate your startup-sequence and the suboptimal or half-baked config of your UBoot enviroment variables are a secure way to ask for trouble. Maybe you should start to solve one problem/misconfiguration after the other (enduringly!) and not everything in parallel. This includes reading the documentation and re-entry yourself in basic usage of the CLI, Workbench, learn about UBoot and the like.

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@cha05e90

Thanks for spotting that.
Corrected

You are also correct about checking with Idetool though most 1 Hardrive + 1 CD drive setups are this way.

Quote:

cha05e90 wrote:
@Spectre660
Quote:
Nvsetvars s4sii_maxbus=1

It should read "Nvsetvar s4sii_maxbus=1" - there's a "s" to much.

Quote:
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_conf=1002
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_xfer=G00F

These are only true IF his drive configuration is really the same...a quick "idetool -l sii3114ide.device" should solve this riddle.

Last edited by Spectre660 on 16-Jun-2012 at 11:39 AM.

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
Posted on 16-Jun-2012 12:23:31
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@djrikki

Hi Rikki

Thanks for your help. Unfortunatelly now I got message over the whole screen saying:

AmigaDOS
MAKEDIR: "RAM:T" already exists.


And this was command line in StartUp seq:

...
ConClip
SYS:System/RexxMast >NIL:

If EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIf


MakeDir RAM:T
Assign T: RAM:T


LoadWB
...

Seems no help... I will add ";" in front of it until it i solved...

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Re: 4 most important questions about SAM 460 ex lite
Posted on 16-Jun-2012 12:25:12
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@Spectre660

Thank you very much! Now system seems to boot much faster - no annoying wait for several more devices!!! I type line by line in OS4 cli

you need to set all of these with the Nvsetvar command from OS 4.1 CLI.

Nvsetvar boot1=usb
Nvsetvar boot2=s4siicdrom
Nvsetvar boot3=s4sii
Nvsetvar s4sii_maxbus=1
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_conf=1002
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_timeout=5
Nvsetvar sii3114ide_xfer=G00F

Still I have to type boota after "]" shows.

Any command line to autoboots without me typing boota every time?

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Posted on 16-Jun-2012 14:12:05
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@djnick

I think cha05e90 already gave the answer in a precedent post :

Quote:
boot_method=boota


Here is what I got when I use the NVGetVar command on my Sam460 :
Quote:
baudrate=115200
loads_echo=1
hostname=Sam460ex
stdout=vga
stdin=usbkbd
ide_doreset=on
ide_reset_timeout=15
ide_cd_timeout=20
pcie_mode=RP:RP
pciconfighost=1
bootcmd=menu; run menuboot_cmd
menucmd=menu
boot_method=boota

usb_enable_4x0=1
usb_retry=1
usb_ohci_power_down_before_reset=1
scan_usb_storage=1
ethact=ppc_4xx_eth0
ethaddr=00:50:C2:80:D4:DC
sii3114ide_xfer=GGGG
ipaddr=192.168.2.50
serverip=192.168.2.222
keymap_swapaltamiga=on
menuboot_cmd=boota
ver=U-Boot 2010.06.05 (Apr 14 2011 - 10:54:55)
video_activate=pci
hush=1
serdes=sata2
boot1=ssii
boota_timeout=1
menuboot_delay=1
os4_commandline=debuglevel=0
bootargs=root=/dev/sda3 console=tty0
ddr2_boost=0


With boot lines in bold. Hope this could help you a bit more.

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@davebraco


Looks like the one he does not have is

bootcmd=menu; run menuboot_cmd

@ DJ Nick

last setting should be

nvsetvar bootcmd=menu; run menuboot_cmd

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@djnick

Hi, I am in the office, I'll boot my Amiga up and compare startup-sequences.

@klx300r

Ah so you have the same problem too.. very odd.. lets see.

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