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juMa 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 8-Jan-2013 13:38:24
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@TheDaddy

"Only 50 will be made"

So is this now or never? Or will there be another batch later? Not sure if I can afford one right now.

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TheDaddy 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 8-Jan-2013 16:09:20
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@juMa

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"Only 50 will be made"So is this now or never? Or will there be another batch later? Not sure if I can afford one right now.


We'll make 50 to start, that is plenty, so don't worry about it...
If there is demand we'll make another batch.

Thanks!

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Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 8-Jan-2013 21:34:57
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I hope when you're saying you'll be selling at a loss you mean you won't actually loose money per unit but rather that the profits aren't enough to recuperate the R&D investment yet

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Spirantho 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 8-Jan-2013 21:48:19
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FWIW I've opened my PPC Mac Mini a few times and it's a completely non-standard shape, as far as I can see.

Certainly nobody should buy the case expecting to be able to fit a Mac Mini innards until someone tests it.

That said, much kudos for getting this done! If I had the money I'd definitely be placing an order as - much as my Sam is cool in its little cube case thingy - it'd be even better in this! Fantastic work, and a good price too!

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TheDaddy 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 9-Jan-2013 10:26:59
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@olegil

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I hope when you're saying you'll be selling at a loss you mean you won't actually loose money per unit but rather that the profits aren't enough to recuperate the R&D investment yet


Both, for a while. But it doesn't matter as what I am trying to achieve is:
Get some development costs back, something is better than nothing.
And don't disappoint who has been waiting for one.

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Rob 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 9-Jan-2013 12:48:38
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@TheDaddy

Maybe once you've got these 50 out of the door you can use Kickstarter to fund a larger and profitable production of these cases.

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clusteruk 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 9-Jan-2013 16:20:02
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Maybe a Kickstarter fund for a complete system with Aros might be a good idea, to sell to all those old Amiga fans who think Amiga is dead but would baulk at the £1000 entry price for AmigaOS4 systems.

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Rob 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 9-Jan-2013 23:25:47
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@clusteruk

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Maybe a Kickstarter fund for a complete system with Aros might be a good idea, to sell to all those old Amiga fans who think Amiga is dead but would baulk at the £1000 entry price for AmigaOS4 systems.


That's a great idea but I think it would be best suited to to a particular level of funding rather than the focus of any Kickstarter fund. Atari ST and Acorn Archimedes fans will also be drawn to it for nostalgic reasons.

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TheDaddy 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 10-Jan-2013 9:12:27
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@Rob

Sorry I have been busy hacking away at the project trying to lower the cost.

I have been working on the CAD chopping things off without (hopefully) compromising its quality and structural stability, removing and replacing things like the spacers for example, the way the plastic connects to the aluminium etc...etc...boring stuff. I can do a couple of things to it, once I've finished I'll email the drawings back to the factories to have it quoted again...

I am not sure if it's going to produce anything positive or if they'll just tell me to get lost...

I'll keep you posted.

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TheDaddy 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 10-Jan-2013 10:59:03
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OK I have finished the CAD...

I've cut a few things and applied cheaper solutions to more expensive items; hopefully this will make it cheaper without changing its nature too much, it's all down to the quotes I get back in the end.

Revised the way to connect aluminium and plastic

Changed the standoffs for more affordable ones...not a fan but hey...

Removed clamp for power switch

Replaced power switch with a cheaper reset switch ( it does the same thing) but it costs £3

Removed the sleeve/braiding from the power switch

Removed the sleeving/braiding from the keyboard

Reduced the amount of punching required in the aluminium

I'll email the CAD files and wait for a quote.

Thanks!

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jingof 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
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@TheDaddy

Love the case! I do want one, but cash flow at the moment may put me in the second batch.

By the way, do you have any plans to try to get some visibility for your case outside of our small faction. For example, I wonder if Tom's Hardware or AnandTech would do a review of your case?

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TheDaddy 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
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Love the case! I do want one, but cash flow at the moment may put me in the second batch. By the way, do you have any plans to try to get some visibility for your case outside of our small faction. For example, I wonder if Tom's Hardware or AnandTech would do a review of your case?


Thank you. That is a good idea, certainly something to follow up.

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Amiga_3k 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 10-Jan-2013 20:28:19
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@TheDaddy

They probably want to have the case for free and then they start complaining as a thank you.

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Bobo 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 10-Jan-2013 20:33:58
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It would be strange if they want the case @price of space shuttle

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TheDaddy 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 10-Jan-2013 21:01:56
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It would be strange if they want the case @price of space shuttle


Hehe...

Space shuttle is a few pennies more...

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Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 10-Jan-2013 21:36:18
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@Bobo

The X500 case is useful, the Space shuttle not anymore ...

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TheDaddy 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 10-Jan-2013 21:52:35
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Removed two side mounts (with screws on the back) where the sides join the rear end of the plastic

Reduced fixing screws cover to base from 8 to 6

Replaced spacers with small nuts for the HDD/SSD

Replaced the keyboard holders with smaller ones.

Plus all of the above in post #50 and should be quite a reduction.

If I take anything else out we're going to be left with nothing...



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Last edited by TheDaddy on 10-Jan-2013 at 09:53 PM.

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TheDaddy 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 11-Jan-2013 19:59:44
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OK...all done.

Only waiting for new quotes.

I'll keep you posted.


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kyle 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 12-Jan-2013 10:06:02
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@TheDaddy

Let we know

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Spirantho 
Re: X500 Plus price and availability
Posted on 12-Jan-2013 10:13:33
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It's good that you want to lower the price, but you may well find that you'll sell out at £260 anyway - in which case you can use the savings you've made as profit.

I certainly wouldn't complain at having to spend £260 for a case like this, even if an extra £20 or so of that went to you as profit; I think you deserve it.

That said, though - I'm not buying one so I would say that! I would if I could though!

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