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wawa 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 20:15:38
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@Hondo

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GET A LIFE!! and start promoting the stuff you think is better!


im already doing all that, and btw im quite satisfied with amiga and its os as is, but aros adds up in multiple fields upon it, if you want to know a honest opinion, not just mindless promotion. for instance my softkicked a4000 needs currently about a half minute to full wanderer (cold boot) with all that debug coming out of it. not bad in comparison, eh?

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 20:23:04
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@wawa


Lies all lies I tell ya!!!! you're just out to destroy Aro... Crap you were being honest weren't you?

/me sighs

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 21:31:50
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How much is the Amiga X1000, I looked today on A-EON's sit and couldnt find anything.

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 21:36:56
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@RobertJDohnert

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How much is the Amiga X1000, I looked today on A-EON's sit and couldnt find anything.


You need to search Amigakit for that.

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 21:38:37
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@RobertJDohnert

you'll want to visit amigakit for info on pricing. currently the system starts at around $2800 before add-ons.

-- eliyahu

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RobertJDohnert 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 21:56:59
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@number6

The only thing available for the US is SAM, I'll ask Trevor about the X1000. Just acquired a PowerPC Mac Mini on Craigslist that I'll use to start the initial port and work with Trevor on X1000 support.

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 21:58:37
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BTW I like that Keyboard and Mouse, be a good add-on when I start selling the servers and desktops.

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OlafS25 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 22:02:56
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@RobertJDohnert

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Last edited by OlafS25 on 24-Jun-2013 at 10:06 PM.

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RobertJDohnert 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 23:02:04
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@OlafS25

I was just kidding. I seriously like it though, may order the keyboard for myself.

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Rob 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 24-Jun-2013 23:11:25
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@RobertJDohnert

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The only thing available for the US is SAM, I'll ask Trevor about the X1000. Just acquired a PowerPC Mac Mini on Craigslist that I'll use to start the initial port and work with Trevor on X1000 support.


Yeah best to chat to Trevor. There are two developers, Darren Stevens and Pat Wall, who already have quite a bit of previous experience with getting various Linux distros up and running on the X1000.

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resle 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 25-Jun-2013 1:34:21
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Yes! This is the way to go: get a linux distro whose amiga roots are.. an "OS4" moniker in the distro name, to run on old PPC hardware. This project should be heavily funded.

Much more logical than getting an existing OS that runs legacy Amiga software (AOS4) to run on new, powerful and cheap hardware. Or to get AROS, which already achieves that, to get better hw support or better legacy compatibility.

Oh, speaking of funding..
I was wondering why a commercial distro also needs to run a "Yearly fundraiser", very prominent on almost all the OS4 OpenLinux website pages.

Anyway, best luck guys! Go go go, one more dark alley to explore!

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Yo 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 25-Jun-2013 1:46:41
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@resle

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Anyway, best luck guys! Go go go, one more dark alley to explore!


Well, aren't you just a little ray of sunshine....

As far as I'm concerned, if someone wants to develop a method for accessing OS4 in a different manner, why scoff and try to drag them down? Yes, agreed, new hardware is better and ultimately the way to go, but hey, it's a pet project, I think it should be given support.
Whether anyone decides that support means reaching into their pocket is up to them, after careful thought, research and consideration.

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 25-Jun-2013 2:02:10
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@Yo

I know, I know, I am grumpy. Borderline Franko ;)

I agree with you that "Whether anyone decides that support means... etc. etc... it's up to them". The problem is: every penny given to the wrong causes is a penny lost to the good ones. No one holds the last word on what's inherently a good or bad causes, but clues can be dug here and there and shown for judgement.

I'm just digging a little on the surface :)

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RobertJDohnert 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 25-Jun-2013 4:48:19
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@resle

The OS4 OpenLinux Project is the equivalent of the Fedora Project or the OpenSUSE project. It is independent from PC OpenSystems LLC, which of course is a primary sponsor. Every independant project needs funding thus we have a yearly fundraiser where all the proceeds go to the project, paying for domains, developers and equipment. OS4 Enterprise Linux is commercial and only commercial due to the fact we do have to pay Oracle, IBM and others for certification for running their enterprise class applications and OS4 Enterprise Linux also is eligible for the support subscriptions.

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 25-Jun-2013 6:01:25
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Hyperion gets most of it's rights from Amiga Inc. , rights that it
didn't get it steals when needed
...



Hmmm - just out of interest - how can one steal a right?
I can imagine someone stealing a piece of paper that grants a right to a certain person or company.
But in my book he still would not have the richt - just a piece of paper that grants the right to someone else - or did I get something wrong?

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Posted on 25-Jun-2013 6:05:41
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@OlafS25

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the problem with lawsuits is that you never know who wins (except the attorneys)



Why?
Both parties win.
One wins the lawsuit, the other wins experience...

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Posted on 25-Jun-2013 6:25:54
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@Dandy

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Hmmm - just out of interest - how can one steal a right?


By using it without permission of the party that owns it ...

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Dandy 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 25-Jun-2013 7:06:27
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@resle

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The problem is: every penny given to the wrong causes is a penny lost to the good ones.
...



The problems I have with that statement are:

a) Who defines what is a "wrong cause" and what is a "good cause"?
What is wrong in the eyes of the one is good in the eyes of the other...

b) There is absolutely no guarantee that a person buying product A would buy product B if A wasn't available.
The person might as well buy product xyz (completely different - e.g. a car instead of an computer) or even buy nothing at all and save t he money...

I'd rather say the problem is with the mindset of the observer. If he tends to see it as "good cause" he will support it, if not, he will oppose it - or simply walk on...

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 25-Jun-2013 9:23:31
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@RobertJDohnert

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I am a huge Amiga fan.

If you really are, we need developers you know

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OlafS25 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 25-Jun-2013 9:32:27
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@Dandy

hmmm

b) yes that might true that f.e. some users would not buy something different (other OS) or even if it is not running on PPC but at the same time when product A is better/faster and cheaper than B there is a good chance that a lot of other people buy the product outnumbering the few by far.

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