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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 11:19:36
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All I see her is an agenda to try get Amiga trademarks, but the problem is they do not have the right to the name, Amiga Inc has the right to this trademark, RobertJDohnert can't use the name «Amiga», it is a trademark, they might find him self sued.
This is useless tread that should be closed down.
If RobertJDohnert continues then all I can say is that RobertJDohnert is a forum troll. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 28-Jun-2013 at 11:28 AM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 28-Jun-2013 at 11:25 AM.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 11:27:23
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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: @All
All I see her is an agend to try get Amiga trademarks, but the problem is they do not have the right to the name, Amiga Inc has the right to this trademark, RobertJDohnert can't use the name «Amiga» |
And you know that they've not agreed to license the name from Amiga Inc because... ?
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This is useless tread that should be closed down. |
That would be up to the moderators, who have had plenty of opportunity over the last 22 pages. Many people seem quite happy to continue discussing it Any constructive comments or ideas are most welcome though
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Actually I do agree with you that I don't think many people would be supportive of the idea of them just 'assuming' the name without licensing it from the rights-holder. Not only would it leave them exposed to legal action (now or later) but it would also not be an attractive 'risk' for any of the OSes or hardware manufacturers to support.
The entire discussion assumes that they have the right to use the name - either from Amiga Inc directly, or from what remains of CUSA.Last edited by Boot_WB on 28-Jun-2013 at 12:23 PM.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 11:29:14
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Do you know more than I and all the others?
Then do share it, otherwise we will see what information will be given on sunday
And btw I already waited on the famous word "troll". You did not disappoint me Last edited by OlafS25 on 28-Jun-2013 at 11:30 AM.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 12:39:35
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This Sunday night a 6 pm US ET, i will be back on chat to answer questions regarding our plans for Amiga OpenLinux and more of our plans. [....] in this list, we define what OUR, our own personal, vision for the Amiga is. We hope you guys find it enlightening. Make sure you come chat. |
ok, hold on. are you going to rebrand your linux distro or not? every few hours this story keeps changing, posts appear and disappear, and logos change. just yesterday your team posted the following on your blog:
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The decision is we will not change our brand. We have a loyal group who don't want us to change it as much as you guys don't want us to change it. OS4 OpenLinux will be OS4 OpenLinux, OS4 Enterprise Linux will be OS4 Enterprise Linux. Similar, the Amiga OS will always be the Amiga OS. |
but now you're referring to 'amiga' openlinux all over again. huh? please get your story straight already. moreover you refer to a large community of users for your distro. that's great, of course, and i have no reason to doubt your word, but, given the frauds that plague our community from time to time, could you clarify a few points:
1. how do you measure users? support contracts? downloads? 2. are there mailing lists or an online forum for your user community currently? 3. are you planning on using the 'amiga' brand or not?
thanks in advance.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 12:45:18
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Post duplicated here so it does not get lost in this thread:
Ashachat
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 13:02:19
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| HI I AM VERY INTEREST IN AMIGA LINUX CAN IT RUN ON AMIGA 500??IF NEED AROS KIKSTART TO WORK BUY AT AEON?? CAN INSTALL LINUX AMIGA KIKSTART ON RASBERRY PI PLS ANSWER THX LONG LIVE AMIGA
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 13:14:50
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Do you know more than I and all the others?
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He doesn't have to. What we can witness in this thread is more than enough to call him a troll:
Note that he publicly declared he wouldn't use the trademark any more, but still continues to refer to "Amiga OpenLinux" (because he thinks that's going to keep the heated discussion going).
Note how he used to make at least somewhat specific announcements or promises in the past, but resorts to using empty phrases now (" a lot of things we can do WITH AROS and Amiga OS 4", "its all about giving them a path").
Note how they claim to have written a long list of things they could do "for the Amiga", but they aren't going to publish it for the next three days because... well, because.
He's trolling. It would be best just to ignore him, he'll dissappear faster this way.
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I can personal only say what you promise is pretty much what I hoped for.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 13:45:38
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that the brand can be used for the different platforms. I would recommend to wait for judgements till sunday chat. I know that you dislike him but you could at least wait a couple of days.
from their site: "We are going to leave the Amiga branded hardware to hardware partners to produce the machines. Now keep in mind, that we will work with hardware partners who produce x86 hardware, PowerPC hardware and even ARM hardware in the future and they will be branded Amiga."
So we both should simply wait and not making conclusions out of thin air. I do not know it because I do not work there but you do not know it either. |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 13:46:17
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Hi Thierry!! Get bored with the moo today?
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 13:46:32
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if he has made promises he cannot keep he will disappear from the community. |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 13:50:03
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I hope you will answer the open questions regarding the "Amiga" brand. How is the situation, who are/will be the hardware partner and so on... |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 14:08:00
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that the brand can be used for the different platforms. |
did he? maybe, but i thought, all he has promised was to use the brand for himself. what would be the use of amiga brand for aros anyway? more recognition? i doubt. aros is exactly a getaway from those "official" amiga-companies mess. olaf, i dont recognize you, have you become a name follower outta sudden?
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would recommend to wait for judgements till sunday chat. |
sure, lets wait, i give all that the benefit of doubt but i dont see anything very convincing so far.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 14:18:07
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I am not a "name follower" but many people still remember the brand. Look at the response CUSA got (much more than all amiga-camps combined in 10 years) and that without real products.
So lets just wait to make conclusions, bashing, calling people "troll" and so on till they answered the questions. If there are no clear answer (what I expect from serious business people) then we should better forget it (or at least I will). Till then I will keep it like before a court: in doubt pro accused Last edited by OlafS25 on 28-Jun-2013 at 02:18 PM.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 14:25:51
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I dislike the fact that new people come and don't try to work together with the other parties. Everyone tries to be "the one and only truth" .... b**sh...
At the same time people always jump on board and discuss and discuss and discuss before someone even prove that he has something to show.
Add all the wasted time you "talked" to each other in your own clay and try to use it meaningfull.
A leading developer shouldn't have time to talk so long about something. He should have to code something.
bla bla bla Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 28-Jun-2013 at 02:29 PM.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 14:29:09
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| @thread
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 14:29:36
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"Ghoul"
Good game, what's the translation of 'feige Unterstellung' ? Last edited by Boot_WB on 28-Jun-2013 at 02:30 PM.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 14:30:39
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 14:32:45
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how do you hold it before a court: "kill the accused, he might be guilty" (if not nevermind) |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 14:33:19
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"Unterstellung" without "feige".
Else I would post on Moo bunny. Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 28-Jun-2013 at 02:35 PM.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 28-Jun-2013 14:34:44
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Gah! The 'close window' button is on top the right-hand side - Heresy!
Call the whole thing off! Last edited by Boot_WB on 28-Jun-2013 at 04:48 PM.
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