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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 5-Jul-2013 18:15:48
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100% sure that this isn't mean to be joke, but it is better to all of us if we react this like it would be a joke.


I'm not sure anyone is taking this as a joke, or wants to

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anyone got some toilet paper here? , i am up to my knee's in crap here...

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
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Oh for the love of God please someone unban Franko!!


OT, is Franko banned then, I thought he asked to leave?

Rude!

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@Toaks

Shall that be funny?

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@number6

The way I read it, is that Steven Sollie is happy that he as stoped abusing the name “Amiga”.
And part about moving forward whit some cooperation can mean a lot of things.
Last part about Steven Sollie that he hears a lot of talk but not a lot of results, sound to me that he also has douts.

He is just too polite, I think.

Yes if I where able to turn this tread in to toilet papier I do it, It just a lot of BS.

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I smiled, Tokas has a good sense of humor

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@NutsAboutAmiga

hmm when I translate it in my language it is somehow not funny. But perhaps it is only me...

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Posted on 9-Jul-2013 17:02:24
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@OlafS25

Surely, a lot to be done:

- Improvement of x86 Linux to catch up with other distros
- AROS Integration to advanced level
- AROS development to fit hardware
- PPC Linux port - advanced version, it is said with no AROS ...

Why not AROS Open Linux?

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@vox

You mean like "I am standing in the crap yeah yeah yeah"?

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+1

If I would him (or them) I would forget all that "Amiga OS4" Hyperion stuff and concentrate on AROS on X86 (and perhaps ARM)

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@thread

Licensing deal with Cloanto

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@number6

Step in the right direction. However 115 USD is not cheap.

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@all

So for 115 dollars I can buy a Linux distribution with Amiga Forever that runs on X86 hardware? While for around 50 Euros I have the full Amiga Forever package?

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@pavlor

What's the odds that it's the value edition (E9.95)?

Mildly interesting that they (?) are offering it at all, but the initial offering prices are ridiculous (I'm sure Roberto will be chipping in soon with a "Look, we've lowered our prices" as per the ridiculous inital hardware prices).

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@Boot_WB

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What's the odds that it's the value edition (E9.95)?


The value edition doesn't come with the videos etc which are mentioned in the press release.

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Posted on 13-Jul-2013 15:45:17
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@Coder

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So for 115 dollars I can buy a Linux distribution with Amiga Forever that runs on X86 hardware? While for around 50 Euros I have the full Amiga Forever package?


So far I do understand Linux distro costs 115$ anyway. It does include AF but likely ROMS and at best games. Videos are mentioned, but they are 2DVDs alone. Maybe if full AF package comes with Linux, but that is unclear. However, legal step to Amiga emulation and some contribution back (I do recall C-USA failed to do even that).

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http://www.os4online.com/2013/07/summer-sale-on-hardware.html


OS4 is now 60$, 115$ with Amiga Forever
http://os4store.blogspot.com/p/software.html

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Mildly interesting that they (?) are offering it at all, but the initial offering prices are ridiculous (I'm sure Roberto will be chipping in soon with a "Look, we've lowered our prices" as per the ridiculous inital hardware prices).


You might be quite right since they announced "summer sales" :)

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Posted on 13-Jul-2013 16:25:32
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@vox

I'm still curious as to how they plan to make any money.

Their hardware is still overpriced. And if anyone wanted those particular PCs (or tablet) I'd think they'd be much better off buying retail or from Amazon directly, instead of a company most have never heard of before.

As for Linux OS4, I still have no idea why it's any better than Ubuntu or the million other flavors of Linux or why it should command a price at all. I suppose it's possible it may run better on PPC hardware than PPC Mint and such... maybe ... but that's hardly a large market.

Or is their entire business plan based on setting up AROS w/Linux, and then trying to sell that to Amiga people, with overpriced hardware? Of course AROS is free already, and that same plan was tried by CUSA (minus AROS), and it wasn't exactly a super success.

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Seems to be learning from CUSA mistakes.

Amiga emulation at least is legal, will AROS be contributed back, remains to be seen.
Hardware is not that overpriced.

Kindle Fire for example is 269$ and 299$ which is 30 and 50$ difference, that can be justified by OS4. On high end systems profit is probably higher.

Entire plan for selling is based on advanced (claimed - stable and supported) x86 Linux and AROS and AmigaForever seems to be options now, more like candy.

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As for Linux OS4, I still have no idea why it's any better than Ubuntu or the million other flavors of Linux or why it should command a price at all. I suppose it's possible it may run better on PPC hardware than PPC Mint and such... maybe ... but that's hardly a large market.


Any market seems to be better then no market
That PPC Linux OS4 remains yet to be delivered.
Past CUSA experience is here wrongly interpreted, so OS4 Team
says no AROS there ... even there is PPC AROS

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@vox

I am not sure if OS4 has anything to do with the Kindle Fire really. It should have Amazon's version of android on it.

As for hardware, I don't get why anyone in their right mind would buy hardware from them in the first place. You say only somewhat overpriced (I'd disagree), but they would have to be much cheaper than alternatives to make any real sense. I picked up the Fire 8.9" for $100 less than they are charging a couple of months ago ... and ended up returning it at that price (too much yellow tint to screen).

They do seem to have learned from CUSA, but not from their mistakes exactly. They are basically doing the same exact thing (without branding) but are being nicer about it.

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They do seem to have learned from CUSA, but not from their mistakes exactly. They are basically doing the same exact thing (without branding) but are being nicer about it.


Completely agreed. And as well playing on cards we can`t do much about it.
Except not buying it.

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