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Dirk-B 
Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 13-Jul-2013 18:00:14
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If they can offer a modern pc with linux and integrate amigaforever perfectly,
then i could be a client for them. But they must take the promise to update and
give a guarantee for the amiga-part. And also give a roadmap as to where they
are going with the amiga-part.

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 13-Jul-2013 18:03:21
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@Dirk-B

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If they can offer a modern pc with linux and integrate amigaforever perfectly, then i could be a client for them. But they must take the promise to update and give a guarantee for the amiga-part. And also give a roadmap as to where they are going with the amiga-part.


So far Amiga roadmap seems to be:
- Legal emulation (done)
- AROS Integration (in progress)
- AROS drivers and AROS as second option for their hardware (Kindle is probably out of game again)
- PPC version of their Linux

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 13-Jul-2013 18:17:54
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@vox

So, we have.

X86 Hardware.
Linux
Emulation Pack
Aros

Hum, excuse me, where is the fuc**** AMIGA ?

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 13-Jul-2013 18:29:16
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@vox

Thing is, I don't see how what they are doing is any better than:

Going to local shop, buy PC for $500.
Install Linux (Ubuntu, Mint) for free
Install UAE for free
Install kickstart (which every Amiga person here probably owns legally)
And Install AROS, if at that point you want AROS. It can be set up in a virtual machine, if you want it all clean and separate.


So why spend $1000+ and also pay for the OS, when the hardware is much cheaper and software is basically free elsewhere? And if you really wanted Forever, just get that for like $50.

On the PPC side of things, I suppose current Amiga PPC owners may prefer OS4 if it is in fact better than Mint PPC and other options. And this may just be me, but I am not sure why a PPC Amiga person would really want Linux anyway, unless it was the only machine they owned. A cheapo desktop from several years ago can run most flavors of Linux fine -- the sort of desktop you find on the side of the road, or for like $50.

If they did something unique, like say they were putting together a FPGA machine, or working on AROS hosted on OS4, for Pi or some different ARM system, then it could be worthwhile. But I don't get what they are doing though from a business perspective. And the Amiga connection is extremely tenuous ... simply licensing Amiga Forever doesn't really add a lot, or more than anyone else can do by simply buying Amiga Forever themselves.

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@Nameless

if they contribute to aros then it is a gain, definitely. until then there is not so much to talk about.

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 13-Jul-2013 18:36:22
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@Nameless

Completely agreed there is nothing new that hasn`t been avail elsewhere,
and that an advanced user can`t build on his own.
Its just out of box offer, surely for some price, if it comes to that.

On PPC side, Linux is a necessary evil because of lack of apps for
AmigaOS 4 and ability to use more RAM and cores. However, my coming
X1000 will be supplied with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Not the latest word in Linux,
but not bad at all too ... so would hardly spent 60$ unless something really
attractive is offered back

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 13-Jul-2013 18:46:12
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@vox

not the whole market is full of people enjoying fiddling around with obscure systems

most people want something that they can easily install and start using without searching and configuring. So there is a market for preconfigured systems and people pay for that. I have seen some advertisements for their next version that they are preparing so even if they only make some marketing and gain attention to the existing community it would already help. So I am not so negativ as some others here, we will see what finally comes out.

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Posted on 13-Jul-2013 21:15:57
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@vox

What would be the added value for this compared to all the other Linux distributions?

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 14-Jul-2013 11:28:00
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@Coder

Author considers it kind of most stable, well looking and long term supported Linuxes,
and now kind of promises PPC Line and long term AROS support. Amiga Forever is
legally offered as addition and AROS inclusion is underway.

Author kind of tries to summ those (and other questions) in another thread
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=37912&forum=17

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most people want something that they can easily install and start using without searching and configuring. So there is a market for preconfigured systems and people pay for that. I have seen some advertisements for their next version that they are preparing so even if they only make some marketing and gain attention to the existing community it would already help. So I am not so negativ as some others here, we will see what finally comes out.


Well, AROS could benefit from it, its directly competing to AresOne and we have to
see how will survive in PC world offers with slight hardware profit margin and emphasize
on free and open source software solutions. No matter how similar in any ways, smarter
approach then with CUSA extreme hardware profits.

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 14-Jul-2013 13:00:39
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@thread

Progress report on AROS support

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Posted on 14-Jul-2013 19:40:27
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@vox

Thanks. PPC support would be welcome.

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
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@thread

yet another modified logo today. and a new boing-ball background, too. that's five different logos since this started, by my count.



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Posted on 15-Jul-2013 22:59:52
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@eliyahu

Seems Robert has a Boing Ball fetish

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Posted on 15-Jul-2013 23:03:20
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Quote:

number6 wrote:
@thread

Progress report on AROS support

#6


But 6 what am I missing by already just using AROS natively on a supported PC much like what I do already with my netbook and AspireOS?

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@klx300r

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Seems Robert has a Boing Ball fetish


You see a boing ball and I see black & white checkered ball ...

Boing ball is red & white as I seem to remember ...

Maybe Roberto isn't only one with a problem ?

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Posted on 15-Jul-2013 23:30:29
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@blizz1220

What you mean something like this ?
I made it to honour a Linux distro don't ya know


AmigaOne X1000 case mod by 328gts

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Posted on 15-Jul-2013 23:35:12
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@klx300r

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What you mean something like this ? I made it to honour a Linux distro don't ya know


I like it

And yes that is a Boing Ball ... And now I will see you in court
being sued by anyone with a bad case of boing ball fever

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Posted on 15-Jul-2013 23:38:45
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@blizz1220

Guilty as charged now enough Amiga references and let this thread get back to Linux and Linux boxes

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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community
Posted on 16-Jul-2013 13:12:49
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@thread

Couple new bits. First one looks like a response to requests for cheaper h/w.

OS4 OpenLinux Project and PC OpenSystems LLC teaming up for a greener planet

New screenshots on new Icon set and adding panels

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Posted on 16-Jul-2013 13:40:52
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@number6

In practice, greener side of OS4 Linux means offer of Compaq and Dell
used systems in 150-250$ range. Not bad offer for a school starters, people
in less developed countries and quite usable systems. Only hard drive sizes
really look silly for today ...

http://os4store.blogspot.com/p/refurbished-hardware.html

The HP Dx7200
HP Compaq dx7200 Desktop PC - Intel Pentium D 3.0GHz, 2GB DDR2, 80GB HDD, DVD-ROM
Cost: $189.00

The Dell Optiplex 755

Dell Optiplex 755 Desktop PC - Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHz, 2GB DDR2, 80GB HDD, DVD-ROM
Cost $189.00

Dell GX755 Desktop PC - Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz, 4GB DDR2, 80GB HDD, DVD-ROM.
Price: $250.00

HP Compaq 6000 Pro Desktop PC - Intel Pentium Dual-Core E6300 2.8GHz, 2GB DDR3, 80GB HDD, DVD-ROM,
Cost: $220.00

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