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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 24-Dec-2013 19:13:39
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@vox: I am sorry, that you made a bad financial decision (take a loan and buy an exotic computer-system, which is much more expensive in your country than in others), but you cant blame Hyperion, Amigakit or A-EON for it.

It was clear, that the AmigaOne X1000 will be shipped with AmigaOS 4.1 and there was no given timeframe for AmigaOS 4.2, so you got exactly for what you paid. It is a well known fact, that 3D-support for modern GPUs will come with AmigaOS4.2 and Gallium3D and that multicore-CPU-support will take some time. You are some years in the Amiga-scene, so you should know, whats going on. Point is: I see really no chance for you to win a court-case in this matter.

And sorry, your other "proposals" are completely over the top. First you want - additional to your X1000 - a free! Cyrus+-board from A-EON (for what reason? and why?) and than you want a refund (+Serbian taxes, which is insane - for Serbian taxes you have to blame your country) to buy a SAM 460 to run AmigaOS4.1 in the same state as on the X1000 (with no free upgrade to AmigaOS4.2).

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 24-Dec-2013 19:18:48
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@vox

To repeat: sell your x1000 and buy PowerMac. With left over money pay back your loan as much as you can do. In few months you are debt free and happy MorphOS user.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
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To repeat: sell your x1000 and buy PowerMac. With left over money pay back your loan as much as you can do. In few months you are debt free and happy MorphOS user.

i couldn't agree more.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
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@itix

Don't encourage him ;)

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
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@danwood

Well the MUI 4 thing on 4.1 is ticked off now at least.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 1:33:30
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@Vox,

You know this is hobby stuff. Start Small and wade into it. To go to the top level and expect the world from such a small platform is beyond me. You bit off more than you can chew.

Sorry you think you got taken but to quote an old cartoon "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it Fred"

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 3:33:22
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@eliyahu

Dual boot SAM 460 with silent threat of better AOS4 kernel, TW, MUI4 full implementation registsred and yes SATA onbiard spliter, PCI high end PCI card,. removal of onboard sound or revision with Envy24 or EMU101+ ...

Couldn`t agree more, but my debts are my debts, and I am gona re-invest difference of Acube system to Power2People projects, yes I?

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 4:57:57
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@vox

Sorry things turned out this way. Maybe in 2014 things for you will improve.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
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@Vox

Don't return it yet, I'll have to look at it first! Please wait a week or less, when I will finally visit you and see X1000 for real :) I just didn`t have much free time (as usual).

Merry Xmas to all!

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
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@eliyahu

Yes ill put $20 towards that bounty!

@ unhappy vox

as foorrest gump's mum says,

Whinger is as Whinger Does!

/Barana doesnt even wait for the Vitriol.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 10:32:35
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@djnick

Until they refund I on bank account its here. Needs some care and AmigaOS reinstall.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
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@vox

what if they don't refund you?

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 10:51:50
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@itix

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In few months you are debt free and happy MorphOS user.

Plus, you'll still have a community to whine to. A win-win situation!

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 10:52:01
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@WolfToTheMoon

Yes seems to be a lot of assumption there. I think he is long past any cooling off period.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 11:02:20
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@WolfToTheMoon: I am afraid that Amigakit or A-EON are not legally bound to give vox a refund after all the time.

And after all the insults, treats and attempted blackmails I am not sure, if they will do something for him as a gesture of goodwill.

Beside that, he really dont know what he want. First he want a Cyrus+-board, than a refund to buy a SAM 460. If he is so unhappy with the progress of AmigaOS4 (which could be faster for sure, but the manpower is limited and the devs do their best), why just leave the platform? This really makes no sense anymore. Poor ACube, if vox is unhappy again and play the same game with them.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 11:24:47
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@Trixie

He wouldn't have to whine ;)

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 11:30:46
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@itix: Dont be so sure, If he wants something (for example MorphOS Airport-support for Powerbooks or an Office-suite for MorphOS) he wants it NOW.

But at least he cant sue Apple for hardware-complains

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 11:38:30
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@AP

Nah, users are already asking for Airport support and office suite.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 11:58:54
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@itix: To ask for something isnt the problem. But I never heard from a MorphOS/Powerbook-user, that he wanted to sue the MorphOS-team, because he expected Airport-Support and he wanted it NOW.

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Re: Decision has been made: returning the Monolith
Posted on 25-Dec-2013 12:26:49
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@AP

I don't think is is appropriate to speculate what vox would do. However, users can try free demo before buying. If someone is dissatisfied with MorphOS he can't lose more than (low) price of hardware which was not sold by us anyway.

Staying away from direct hardware business (let other companies like Acube take care of it) make sense ;)

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