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Nimrod 
Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4
Posted on 12-Jul-2017 0:28:59
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@Lou

There is a simple reason why I am still using the same arguments against your woo, and that is because you still haven't been able to provide any evidence that corroborates your idiotic assertions. Yo claim that radiation pressure is responsible for gravity yet you cannot use it to explain why the two stars here are not flying apart but instead will eventually merge. They are already closer to each other than the moon and the Earth so the combined radiation pressure should force them apart according to your silly story about bright balls in a dark environment.
Sitchin said that the large object outside our solar system was a brown dwarf with a 3600 year orbit. There is no object of that size within one light year. The hypothesised mass that is pulling planets around is calculated to be around ten times the mass of the Earth which is still a tiny fraction of the mass of Jupiter, le alone a brown dwarf, which while it would not be visible to the naked eye, would be like a shining beacon in the near IR J-band which is what real astronomers use to look for brown Dwarf stars. IR and near IR.

Astronomers can "see" planets orbiting nearby stars, and even less near stars. They have even "seen" rogue planets that are not associated with any star, yet they are unable to see the thing that Sitchin claimed existed. You assert that this is because every astronomer on the planet, amateur or professional, is involved in a conspiracy to cover up a planet that you first claimed was going to destroy the Earth in 2012. You changed your story once it became clear that there was nothing nearby and tried to shunt the return of Nibiru off into the more distant future, forgetting that by doing so you were moving the supposed previous orbit into more recent history where records show that there was no such object having the influences you claim.

Every claim you have ever made has been successfully shown to be false mainly because all you do is find any sh1t on the internet that contradicts established science and tout it even if it contradicts other bovine excrement you have already posted. You were wrong when you claimed that the great pyramid was in Gaza and you have moved rapidly even further from factuality since then.

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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4
Posted on 13-Jul-2017 5:35:32
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@BrianK

Here you go, Planet 10 or whatever number you feel is hip at the time...
http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/solar-system/a27280/new-evidence-planet-nine/
Oh look, it seems to have other celestial bodies orbiting it and is closer to Neptune's size...

Amazing how one man's translations of ancient scripts continue to line up with reality. Remember, all he did was translate...and put the pieces of the puzzle together that religious zeolots considered blasphemy and/or mythology because their translations were biased by their faith... You essentially have a Jewish scholar casting his faith to the side and coming to grips with the translations. Can you trust your blindly accepted 'facts' to not be biased? He came up with translations that described what seemed impossible in the 1970's [exoplanets, humans 300,000 years ago, translations of events that seem to be more in depth versions of stories his faith would use to brainwash him as a child...].

Meanwhile you have a blind zealot in this thread that just regurgitate the same spoon-fed biased information because all he was ever thought to do was rinse and repeat...

Last edited by Lou on 13-Jul-2017 at 05:40 AM.

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Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4
Posted on 13-Jul-2017 5:38:14
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I think I hear an echo...

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Lou 
Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4
Posted on 13-Jul-2017 6:04:39
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@BrianK

Quote:

BrianK wrote:
@Lou

Quote:

Acceleration in space is trivial.
Create a nuclear explosion gun (as opposed to bomb). All you need is a way to manipulate the side of the chamber facing the "barrel" to lose it's mirror/reflective properties. Here's something similar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pulse_propulsion
Umm okay. But, as a response to a 'known' (questionable known) EM Drive mechanics here it's not a nuclear explosion. You're claiming a different mechanism.

This slow rate of acceleration may be good to reach another star. As you said acceleration in space is trivial. And that rate would compound. However, there wouldn't be sufficient distance between the earth and mars to make use of that degree of compounding effects.

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Have you figured out how far behind 'accepted science' is yet?
Again drive by and pick me up in your EM Fiero and show me. Oh you don't have one? Could be because your non-accepted science hasn't proven itself working. Science has lots to learn, and if your beliefs are real you have lots to prove. Putting new ideas on top is great and all. But, it just adds to the pile of unproven beliefs.

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Steel? Good god man! Imagine if they used something lighter and stronger?
The point that went over your head is this is the trip of a nuclear powered rock with forces very much significantly greater than the EM Drive that is 'known' (questionable known) . The problem here really isn't replacing the steel. There's no material light enough to counteract the incredibly small forces of EM Drive. They'd never get launch off the planet using an EM Drive.

Where we are today - the EM Drive has proven to do nothing. In the interim you may want to check out Halser Engines. Rumors are there is some testing going on. Thrust is significantly more than chemical rockets. Chemical are significant orders of magnitude higher than EM.


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1 kg to get into low Earth orbit is 3.29 x 10^7 Joules
Chinese Testing of EM Drive was
750 mN (millinewtons) of thrust, and requiring 2,500 watts of power
...
How many Ems to launch that 2,800 pound Fiero? Don't forget to off-set the weight of all the EM engines and power sources themselves...

You really like to split up what I say to twist the point don't you?
EM is light. A 'nuclear' explosion is a light explosion...which you continue to ignore...which I believe I told you would be declassified and now you can see it for yourself in a wiki... Just because the EM drive is just creating the force on a smaller scale now, like any new technology, it takes years to refine it for consumer use. If it was used in the military, you wouldn't hear about it until 50 or more years later when it's declassified. Things get declassified faster when consumer businesses develop tech on their own.

Remember DARPA? They filter into the private[consumer] sector what the military allows... You hadn't even heard of it until I mentioned it a couple of years ago as I recall and I've known about DARPA since the late 80's...and yes, they created the predecessor to the internet too. You can bet the farm the military known about the EM drive for much longer [and perfected it] now that it's in the wild...

Just look at how the NSA had advanced hacking tools YEARS before the Kapersky anti-virus group [from Russia] exposed their methods and Edward - my hero - Snowden exposed their tools to the world.

You really do live in a bubble gum world - don't you?

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BrianK 
Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4
Posted on 19-Jul-2017 14:28:22
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@Lou

Quote:

Lou wrote:

You do realize that 12 refers to major celestial objects that we can see and that generalizing the term 'planets' is much shorter to pronounce and type since most of those are indeed planets and technically, stars can be planets. Jupiter emits more light than it receives from the sun. In fact it is GR's failure that associates stars and large planets like Saturn and Jupiter as being gas-giants. The rest of your post is not worth addressing since it's more of the same pathetic nit-picking rather than ignoring the fact that SITCHIN said [or translated rather] we have a large object in the outer solar system and that this is now generally accepted SCIENCE.

Reality slapped people hard when the world was proven to be round...

Lou - you're too funny.

Your argument amounts to Sitchin 'translated' that this really large object has a certain set of physical constraints. Sciencists are postulating a large object with physical constraints incongruent with Stichin. Scienctists haven't found such an object... Then you go on to falsely conclude incongruent traits are the same and it's accepted.


I hope they didn't pass you in your Logic 101 class.

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Posted on 19-Jul-2017 14:34:36
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@Lou

Planet X didn't destroy us in 2012. Now another new prediction it's this year!
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/748762/Planet-X-end-of-the-world-2017-apocalypse-nibiru


If your faith predicts the destruction of the earth every year you're bound to be right sometime. Though that's probably something like 1 out of 5 Billion, or so. You figure out the accuracy accurately. It's nothing more than a tinsy rounding error.

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Posted on 19-Jul-2017 14:38:07
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@Lou

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Remember DARPA?

Rationality is not strong with you.

You're explaining this technology exists but the US government conspiracy is covering it up. Add in that Russia and China are in a space race with the US. They'd in no way want one up us. They prefer to play nicely and join in the worldwide conspiracy to hide this technology.

Turtles all the way down.

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Nimrod 
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Posted on 22-Jul-2017 11:00:40
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@Lou

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EM is light. A 'nuclear' explosion is a light explosion...which you continue to ignore
And the energy output is bigger than that of the "drive" by several orders of magnitude which YOU continue to ignore. The main damage caused by nuclear explosions comes as a consequence of the light energy heating the surrounding air causing expansion and movement. The thrust mass of the air is what knocks down walls, uproots trees etc, not the light pressure. If you stand several miles away from a nuclear explosion and see the flash, the brightness can cause temporary blindness, the first wave of ionising radiation could have just caused future cancers, but it will not knock you to the ground. That is what happens when the pressure wave moving at the speed of sound reaches you unless you have taken cover. If the nuclear explosion is sufficiently far away and separated from you by the vacuum of space the radiation pressure will not be enough to move you against even the small gravitational attraction of your own mass. The evidence is that the light from the sun shining perpendicular to the pull of gravity on earth does not push you along towards the night side of he earth. Solar sails only work in space, not as a means of crossing a flat plain either on earth or the moon, and they only work if they are far enough from the gravity wells of planet or even moon sized objects.
Your defence of the energy outputs of the "drive" are like your determination that monopole motors were the way of the future, despite the fact that they are nothing but an interesting toy that arose from the earliest explorations of electromotive force and were superseded by rotating the magnetic field by 90 degrees to produce the vastly more efficient and powerful motors of the 20th century. Recent improvements in power outputs of motors have come about as a consequence of engineers being able to further concentrate the magnetic fields because of discoveries by real scientists, not the woo-woo merchants you seem to be devoting your life to following.

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BrianK 
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Posted on 9-Aug-2017 14:56:31
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@Lou,

As Nibiru is destroying the earth next week, been nice knowing you
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/will-2017-solar-eclipse-cause-secret-planet-called-nibiru-destroy/

Taking your word at face value you have a short bit of time to sell the world's fastest Fiero to fuel that last bit of opioid infused AmigaWorld rant. Go for it!

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BrianK 
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Posted on 18-Sep-2017 19:37:39
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@Lou

Sept 23 - The End due to Nibiru

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/855548/End-of-the-world-The-Rapture-September-23-Nibiru-Planet-X

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Posted on 24-Sep-2017 12:43:48
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@BrianK

It is now the afternoon of the 24th September and.....

Image copyright held by Esmerelda Weatherwax.

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BrianK 
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Posted on 26-Sep-2017 14:17:12
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@Nimrod

Apparently the missed end of the world Nibiru prediction has changed to Oct 21?
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/09/25/doomsday-october-bible/

I hope Lou's sale of his Fiero made him enough money to eat for the next month.

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All,

In related news Gravity Waves were shown, now 4 times. With a recent Scientific Nobel Prize going to scientists that demonstrated there are gravitational ripples in the space-time.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40476295/the-2017-nobel-prize-for-physics-goes-to-three-scientists-who-proved-einstein-right

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