I wonder if MOS Team might be interested for a port if these boards became available...

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@WolfToTheMoon

Didn't the MOS Team disappear when Commodore bought them out?

@Hypex

What operating system you guys wanna use?,I am going to have a chat with the lead developer next week.
We could do a fresh start with a new OS,what about BeOS?

@hydragon

"I am going to have a chat with the lead developer next week."

What lead developer?
DOME developer?
T4240RDB developer?
Tyan Power mb developer?

"What operating system you guys wanna use?"

AEROS should be fastest to try and has Amiga flavour.
Then AROS, ARIX, MorphOS, ...

(ARIX has SMP capability, but the development is under NDA) http://www.arixfoundation.com/
(also Hyperion should have some alpha/developer build of AmigaOS4 for P5020 product, that development happen also under NDA)
Potential place to loo for AmigaOS4 contacts: http://blog.hyperion-entertainment.biz/


To the forum!!!


(also some Amigans are friends with "linux"... so check this thread for some PPC linux talents if interested (Amiga x1000 + Linux, the kernel thread))

IMO: Amiga community is in desperate need of help in taking the multicore and OpenCL challenge, so good comunication relations between Amiga PPC niche and Linux PPC niche is very important.

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What about OS4?

What about to inform A-eon?

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A-eon is not in OS "business".

But sure, for future HW co-operation.

@thread
DOME node prototype board: https://flic.kr/p/jfZ1tQ
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I don't need A-eon nor Hyperion.
From the mentioned OSes BeOS is by far the most powerfull,besides BeOS was made by Amiga developers and is influenced by it.
Time is nearing the Amiga community takes control of her own future instead of being ripped of.

@hydragon


I don't like linux nor OS4,I am not after money,I just cannot stand the way this wonderfull community is treated for years,we the poeple you and me,we have the real power,not some shitty companies who only care about their own interest.
Time for a small revolution me thinks.

@hydragon

BeOS? Its not even close to what AmigaOS is, its almost like comparing MacOS9 with AmigaOS.

I have 6 free update on AmigaOS4.1 and lots of fixes streaming in on AmigaUpdate,
AmigaOS4.0 there was 7 software updates or some thing for free.

They have also been generous towards the more obsolete AmigaOS 3.x version, by releasing RoadShow for 68k, and the newer Layers.Library released.

They have also kept the BlizzardPPC/CyberStormPPC version of AmigaOS 4.1 up to date, even hardware is bit slow by today's standards.

I say Hyperion has been generous.

Sure there not every destitution they have made have been for the better but for most part they have not been to bad.

The problems we did have was with Eyetech and Mai Logic they are out of the picture, and Amiga Inc who was causing lots of problems, and fulled lots of the more unpleasant divides and media PR damage. With Amiga Inc out of the picture business can go on, with out interruption.

The Sam4x0 hardware from Acube-System is good. The AmigaONE-X1000 is expensive but it works well.

Anyway if you don't like what they are doing you have lots of options to pick, no need to be nasty about it.

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Ok. Clear enough.
(Neither am I happy about current policies of commercial OS developments & price of the hobby)

Not managed to run Haiku enough (on x86) to say if it is any good or if it "feels" anything like Amiga.
http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/the-dawn-of-haiku-os

Perhaps someone who knows AOS3, AOS4 and MorphOS could do a review of modern BeOS (HaikuOS).
Also some developer could comment if it's API is as "fun" to program as Amiga API.

And, asking again, what lead developer will you be talking to? (more detail in my previous post)



Other than that. My idea would be to:
1) do the affordable PPC HW
2) adapt AROS/AEROS/ARIX for it
3) produce it and at the same time see if MorphOS team or AmigaOS4 team wants to be part of it.

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I don't like linux nor OS4

Sorry if i say, but maybe his could not be the right place for you

We are talking about a possible harware for future Amiga OS and this is an Amiga OS web site.

Are you an amiga user?

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@hydragon

I prefer AmigaOS myself. But what fresh start are you talking about? It's a bit late to create the next Amiga. It's all about the OS these days.

Unless the machine is to have special firmware with a GUI. But even that is standard on a modern PC these days AFAIK.

@Hypex

Look guys I am not here to bash Hyperion nor Aeon or anybody,it is just years of accumulating dissapointment.
I know it is all about the OS,that is why I want the best of the best.
I love Amiga to death,own several Amiga's,at the same time I have an interest in all alternative platforms.
My connections are strong,but I won't call names,I am sorry,that would be stupid.
What me hurts is the community is torn apart,poeple have to realize that we,the community are in charge,any of you,and we can create our own future.
Lets do this together as a community driven project.
I will take care of the hardware and anybody is free to run whatever OS he desires.

Greetings from Holland.

@hydragon

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Look guys I am not here to bash Hyperion nor Aeon or anybody,it is just years of accumulating dissapointment.

Part of problem is that people like your self, sit waiting for some one else to do something, instead of writing programs and being productive.

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I know it is all about the OS,that is why I want the best of the best.

There are ways you can contribute, bunty, paypal donations, writing programs. The OpenAmiga insinuative to crate contributions that can be integrated into AmigaOS. And lets not forget AROS where you are not limited by a NDA.

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I love Amiga to death,own several Amiga's,at the same time I have an interest in all alternative platforms.

Well I have tried a few alternatives my self QNX, BeOS, different Linux distributions, they are all different. When it really comes down to it I do not have time for etch and every one.

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My connections are strong,but I won't call names,I am sorry,that would be stupid.

Connections or not, its individual contributions that makes the community what it should be. If you write programs, donate to projects, or if that graphic art work for PD developers or music, useful blogs tips and tutorials, translations, there are many things that people can help out with.

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What me hurts is the community is torn apart, poeple have to realize that we, the community are in charge, any of you,and we can create our own future.

You are in charge of your own life, do what you want, install MorphOS, AROS, Linux, Windows, or what ever its your choose.

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Lets do this together as a community driven project.

You can't change history, the divide exists on OS level, but open source projects can cross from one OS to another OS, there is not going to be unity, as every one are individuals, as individuals we can cooperate between operating systems. But I'm not going to get MorphOS and AROS, BeOS, Linux, QNX, Windows and write programs for every one of this, I do not have time for that, I most pick one I like AmigaOS4 that is way this is my choose.

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I will take care of the hardware and anybody is free to run whatever OS he desires.

There are been several attempts already to get Amiga people to install some kind of LinuxAmiga / AmigaLinux, we don't want that.

Creating more options does not make unity, it fragments, so its better to pick one that exist like AROS, MrophOS, AmigaOS4.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

look man I am not in the mood for this,try to be constructive.

@hydragon

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What operating system you guys wanna use?

AmigaOS.

@hydragon

Talk to ARIX guys, that is your best bet. Possibly MorphOS, but MorphOS as well as OS4 cannot make use of all 12 cores of T4240.

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"but MorphOS as well as OS4 cannot make use of all 12 cores of T4240"

It's more like 24 cores. If you use single thread SW you seem to get around 3MIPS/Mhz, but with two threads per core you really get 6MIPS/Mhz. e6500 is really good core, IMHO!

@hydragon

I noticed that modern BeOS/Haiku is 100% x86. So, I'm 0% interesed in it for PPC.

Therefore I would still recommend starting with opensource Amiga OSs that our community uses, then work forward from that.
When one has good plan on paper and HW to show, I believe OS people become interested.

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What is the point of having all those cores if the OS doesn't support them,
BeOS had symmetric multi processing right from the start.
Even Commodore planned to ditch Amiga compatability back in time.

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/beos.html

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/amibeos.html

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@KimmoK

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It's more like 24 cores. If you use single thread SW you seem to get around 3MIPS/Mhz, but with two threads per core you really get 6MIPS/Mhz. e6500 is really good core, IMHO!

Indeed, it is much better than e5500 and it has Altivec, but it is slow compared with newer x86 stuff. It needs a SMP OS to shine, it is wasted on MorphOS and OS4.

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