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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 2-Sep-2014 16:40:00
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They wrote faster than qemu! Not faster than "qemu-usermode"! This is a difference which matches the 4x faster statement. |
Then read again: "We took QEMU user mode emulator and compared its performance with the performance of Eltechs ExaGear Desktop." Sounds quite clear to me that the stats following refer to a comparism between qemu user mode vs. exagear.
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To be honest: no more fishy than yours or mine Last edited by Daytona675x on 02-Sep-2014 at 04:47 PM.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 2-Sep-2014 16:48:06
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| @Daytona675x OK you won they named it. They didn't in their press releases. Anyway.. the video still looks like qemu-usermode launched from a script called exagear.
--fishy websites: yes because they look as if it is a site of mine : ) (unfinished and confusing) : D To be honest at least it looks cleaner ; )
-- At least you know that there is http://wiki.winehq.org/ARM Follow it and you can have what exagears will sell "maybe" anytime soon right now. And for free. Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 02-Sep-2014 at 04:51 PM. Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 02-Sep-2014 at 04:50 PM. Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 02-Sep-2014 at 04:49 PM.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 2-Sep-2014 20:15:37
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i think only the autors can explain their project. _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 2-Sep-2014 23:47:16
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 2-Sep-2014 23:49:32
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| I'd like to clarify some question as representative of Eltechs.
ExaGear is developed from the scratch and don't use any sources from qemu. When we compare results with qemu we use qemu-user
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 0:07:55
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 0:11:03
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Fransexy wrote: @tlosm
The only real use for this that i see is for run wine. After all, there isn't all linux x86 apps compiled for ARM? if not then there are the source code. there are only a few commercial not open source apps for linux after all |
Skype, old-school games on the spot. |
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 0:17:24
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Yes, they ran Soliter several years ago and there are no any progress from that time. |
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 0:22:03
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 2:02:41
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Welcome and thanks for the clarification!
According to the Wired article it smells just like the subject says: "incredible news". More that 40% (even 80%) performance of native code is surely a state of the art piece of code.
If your company will have enough success in the future on ARM, please look at our PPC cpu and do it again with Amiga OS :)
Bye!
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 5:16:44
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thank you for your clarifications. hope a port from your application for linux powerpc in future and why not a partnership with aeon computers ;) here there are many good and great developer from russia too hope your company will have a good support from the amigans community.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 5:44:12
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| @pUnK Ok when can I check it? Of course I will pay a license. About your solitaire statement: It is wrong. If you check wine mailing list you will learn that they could run even office on a n900 or pandora. About ppc: People did it as well but it workes only with a version of wine prior to 1.x because they changed something regarding pthreads. Can be found on wine mailing list an was highly actively worked on in 2006.
Can you make a video showing something like office? I would like to test it. If it is better than Qemu as you say I would like to license it for use in aeros. When will it be available? Anyway if you say the truth I have to apologize(and I blamed my self). The fact that you care about a amigaforum doesn't make it more serious : ) Don't take it personal. In ppc osx land thing which started "similar" to this have fooled people. It reminded me to them a bit from the overall style.
At all: Wine translates windows API calls to linux API calls. This can not be ported to amigaos because amigaos is not unix. A port is not possible. (Just a side note because sometimes people wish it)
But a ppc linux would make sence to exagear because ppc is much stronger in server world than arm.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 18:45:59
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Ok when can I check it? Of course I will pay a license.
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This month. Everything is written on http://eltechs.com/product/exagear-desktop/. There you can make pre-order to be informed about launch.
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About your solitaire statement: It is wrong. If you check wine mailing list you will learn that they could run even office on a n900 or pandora.
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I've check it. It is not so reliable and useful. Anyway they use qemu and it would be much more slower.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 18:49:33
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| @pUnK This would be great. About preordering: I am interested in licensing it for aeros (www.aeros-os.org). Specifically for amiqube. If you tell the truth about performance you won a friend : ) Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 03-Sep-2014 at 06:56 PM. Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 03-Sep-2014 at 06:53 PM.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 3-Sep-2014 20:34:53
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 4-Sep-2014 0:51:35
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| @phoenixkonsole Really we deeply tested only Ubuntu. But aeros and ubuntu based on debian. So probably exagear will work on aeros with minor limitations.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 4-Sep-2014 16:59:20
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| @pUnK No problemo, besides unity there should be not much difference.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 13-Oct-2014 13:47:26
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| Hi! I'm pleased to inform you that Eltechs has launched ExaGear Desktop. Currently we accept payments through PayPal http://eltechs.com/product/exagear-desktop
Is there anybody who already tried it? You are welcome to leave your feedback.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 13-Oct-2014 13:49:46
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Good job, hope best future for your application and company :)
Found this and look like is amazing :)
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/779167/exagear-desktop-released-/ Last edited by tlosm on 13-Oct-2014 at 02:57 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 13-Oct-2014 at 01:49 PM.
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Re: Wow this is an incredible news Posted on 13-Oct-2014 15:37:05
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| @punk Yeah i am willing to test : ) I planned to add wine in next AEROS for ARM so if your exagear is better I will add this (reads= license deal possible)
While obviously the odroid or amiqube Versions will offer more cpu grunt. But see here: Wine + usermode works on pi http://raspberrywine.blogspot.de/
Edit: Ok pi is out because it offers not the required instructions. So Qemu + wine are the only way to run windows apps on it.
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