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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 9-Oct-2014 19:48:11
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Since we seeing references to AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition then AmigaOS 4.2 should getting closer.
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Niolator wrote: Anyone got a clue to when AmigaOS 4.2 will be released? It would be a good christmas present for myself. :P
Seriously, maybe we'll have to wait for AmigaOne X5000 before AmigaOS 4.2 is released? |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 9-Oct-2014 20:26:53
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and final edition will exit when it is done ... and after the beta tester when it is done will done the testing of x5000 ...if it is done for they _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 10-Oct-2014 14:17:51
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so, OS 4.2 will never exit this year.. May in 201x? _________________
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 10-Oct-2014 14:53:05
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I wouldn't expect OS 4.2 ever. I think they've bitten off more than they can chew. Hyperion or any other Amiga developer just don't have the resources to produce OS 4.2 in a meaningful timeframe. By the time it comes out it will be so far behind modern operating systems that it will be a waste of time. The time when it might be the salvation of Amiga is past. Amiga will soon join the Commodore 64 as not being useful for modern tasks. The truth is sometimes harsh and difficult to accept. The thing that killed the Amiga is killing it again. Bad management and unwillingness to commit enough resources to the do the job. Hyperion won't come out and say it's cancelled. They'll just wait until people forget about it or give up on it. Last edited by thinkchip on 10-Oct-2014 at 03:18 PM. Last edited by thinkchip on 10-Oct-2014 at 03:11 PM. Last edited by thinkchip on 10-Oct-2014 at 03:09 PM. Last edited by thinkchip on 10-Oct-2014 at 02:54 PM.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 10-Oct-2014 15:30:05
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for sure we will not see 4.2 this year ... i think more probably 2015 when it done X5000 for betatester will have a 4.1.7 amigaOs Last edited by tlosm on 10-Oct-2014 at 04:24 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 10-Oct-2014 at 03:33 PM.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 10-Oct-2014 16:42:34
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By the time it comes out it will be so far behind modern operating systems that it will be a waste of time.
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This is irrelevant. It is only important that it is ahead of OS4.1.
I could release ChrisOS 1.0 and it would be far behind even DOS. Does that means it's not worth releasing? Of course not - all software has to start somewhere and although it might take time to catch up with the big players, that doesn't mean it isn't possible.
Despite the fact you're clearly trolling, I do actually agree with what you say - it is unlikely that Amiga will ever be in the frame. But that doesn't stop hobbyists wanting a better product, or wanting to use what they already have.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 10-Oct-2014 16:47:46
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October 24th to October 26th. That's a good point. It's miles away! Could it be released before this date? |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 10-Oct-2014 16:50:32
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I think OS 4.2 is an evolution of OS 4.1 with some key features like Gallium and multicore support. It is not a complete new OS done from scratch. So at some point you will have a public "OS 4.1 final" without these features then anything added after, including the Gallium and multicore support becomes OS 4.2. You would have been adding and testing these things with internal versions of OS4.1 over time.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 11-Oct-2014 1:25:38
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I'm "clearly" suggesting that OS4.2 is probably no closer to being released than it was this time last year or the year before or the year before, etc, etc. _________________ X5000 / microA1(OS4.1 FE U2) / CodeBench / Imagine / Blender Lightwave 2019 / Microsoft Visual C++ |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 19-Oct-2014 11:05:59
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| I don't really get the deal with "it's not up to par with modern operating systems". I switched from Windows to Linux in 2008 and used OSX for a short time along with Linux. Then I bought my first Amiga ever, the One 500 which I'm still using to type this. These days, I'm using AOS 4.1 on my One 500 about as much as I use my Linux machine. I'm not under the impression that AOS 4.1 is not modern. In fact, to me it feels very modern. Sure, a thing or two is lacking but no OS on this planet is perfect. I love AOS 4.1 and to me it's modern and I can do most stuff with, that's the most important. So I'm looking forward to 4.2 being even more awesome than 4.1 (which is already awesome) :)
(and remember: this is my first Amiga ever and I'm only 22 years old) Last edited by Vistaus on 19-Oct-2014 at 11:06 AM.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 19-Oct-2014 14:52:03
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I don't really get the deal with "it's not up to par with modern operating systems |
One thing would be speed. Browsers get slow doing general surfing these days and have no JIT or acceration for video so that plays slowly and there is no Java or flash support. Sometimes a browser just won't load up a page, even a simple one, and you are forced to use a PC because some programmer was too stupid to simply program a generic portable website.
Some "normal" things people do like Skype, Bluetooth or prnting don't work. There is lack of 3d support. Lack of other things like web cams, wireless adaptors and firewire.
Most would be things you take for granted in OSX or Windows and then try to do the same on OS4 only to get stuck.
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Nether say nether. Last edited by Hypex on 19-Oct-2014 at 02:53 PM.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 19-Oct-2014 20:06:09
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...and I who thought amigadave was negative. |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 20-Oct-2014 10:58:24
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Printing works fine for me and Odyssey is one of the best browsers I've ever used. And again: this is my first Amiga so you know what other browsers I'm used on other OS's so that says a lot.
But you half quoted me because you're giving your opinion based on 1 sentence, while you didn't even bother to read the rest of my post where I clarify my argument. _________________ Proud user of AmigaOS 4.1 on an AmigaONE 500. This is the first Amiga I've ever had so I don't know all the ins and outs of AmigaOS yet, so I'm sorry if I'm asking noob questions and stuff. |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 20-Oct-2014 11:59:32
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About OsX... every time they made an upgrade i have to prey God for hope my programs will work on it . OsX time by time is becoming more worst ... example i cant have 1080p video exit on my MacPro retina it run only in 2560x1440 or 1600x900 ... if i use hdmi i cant use the system mixer for pull down or up the audio and i have to use the monitor control for did it.. Yosimite is really horrible with pan icons look like did by a 8y older baby ... and is much slower in normal gui operation compared the before Maveric and before lion/leopard.
Better AmigaOs where you have less but that less work and not become crezy with something that is supposed be work and dont do it job good. _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 20-Oct-2014 12:15:01
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Hyperion has done a lot to deserve some trust regarding their promises. Yes I know about the notebook but I guess it was an act to not loose more AOS 4-users over to MOS maybe. Except for that they've allways delivered. If they fail it won't be the end of the world, it will be a very sad day that I wish will never happen but how they're going to come out of this situation I don't know, only they know (A-eon, Hyperion). |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 20-Oct-2014 12:32:43
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| This year without Gallium IMHO.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 20-Oct-2014 13:22:15
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The netbook wasn't their fault - the price of them suddenly went up massively when the makers stopped their own production run, leaving Hyperion no choice (as who would pay £500 for a 400MHz netbook, and for that price they'd have had to have ordered thousands). Last edited by Spirantho on 20-Oct-2014 at 02:25 PM.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 20-Oct-2014 13:42:40
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| Perhaps they could follow the example set by Microsoft and release AmigaOS 6.0 next?
Still way behind the original schedule from Amiga inc. though... (and yes, Hyperion had absolutely nothing to do with that schedule) |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 20-Oct-2014 14:26:18
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Not as far behind as you might think. Remember that OS 4 for Amiga Inc. was just OS3 compiled for PPC. OS 5 was going to be closer to what we now have as OS 4. |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.2 this year? Posted on 20-Oct-2014 15:03:50
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Remember that OS 4 for Amiga Inc. was just OS3 compiled for PPC. OS 5 was going to be closer to what we now have as OS 4. |
I wasn't here then, so I checked what Hyperion said:
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As 0S 4.0 is basically OS 4.2 as announced on the Amiga website |
(Ben Hermans)
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Given that, I'm just curious. Do you have a link to the feature list for OS 4.2 on the Amiga website, that is being stated as what OS4.0 IS?
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