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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 12-Jan-2015 19:52:45
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Tuxedo wrote: Update...
- I've changed the ram modules - I've changed the HDD that seems broken
All seems ok util I'll use the net...seems that via-rhine device locks up for some reason... I get problems while connected and downlolading files and especially if using Odissey(it seems)...
Any idea? Maybe tring some eth card(wich supported?) to see if problem persist?
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I used to have very similar issues with an old Peg 2 rev 2B1 board... as many here know, the pegasos 2 mobos (except 2B5) have issues with memory and eventhough you can fit 2 1 GB modules in it.. .it will have issues.
So what I did at the time was to run a memory tester program and look for issues.. under MOS and OS4.x.. and yes.. it had memory issues.. with 2 modules connected and with those two DIMM modules in particular.. I had to find a different brand module.. If I remember well it was a 512 MB module... that one worked fine, memory tester reported no issues after a full memtest cycle and the network lockup problems were gone. Since OWB is memory hungry I'd check the memory first before doing anything else... if memory has issues OWB will crash quicker than other software due to the reason stated above.
Hope that helps,
Dragster
Last edited by Dragster on 12-Jan-2015 at 07:55 PM. Last edited by Dragster on 12-Jan-2015 at 07:53 PM.
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 12-Jan-2015 20:11:57
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dont know if was the worth contacting bplan...
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my mobo was 2B5 and used 2GB without any problem for about 2 years since the mobo wont boot anymore and now it will boot again after changed the modules...so in principle I've no problem with the memory modules...
Now the problem seems differrent and also weird since it happens mainly with net activated... _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY. |
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 12-Jan-2015 21:42:50
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Why would you use a 3rd party when bplan is still in biz? |
I do not eant to sound negative but they are offering their services for very expensive prices._________________ Peg1, Peg2, Efika, Amiga 500, Amiga 1230, Amiga 4000PPC, Sam 440EP, AmigaOne XE, MacMini PPC, PowerMac G4, G5 |
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 13-Jan-2015 0:43:52
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UPDATE:
now I'm running 1GB (2 x 512MB) and these evening I do:
- modified HBT - uploaded HBT on box.com - used drive leaving about 350MB free of meme(looking at ram disk space availability throught Dopu4) - used system calculator - browsed AmigaWorld and AmigaNews - done some more things
no problem...
After that I tryed to load
www.yahoo.it
that uses about 100MB...I get immediately the DSI I always get... Tryed fresh start and again DSI...
Any possible news idea on why only there....? Drive and Box was really heavy sites(especially Drive) and gets no problems...
Thank you.
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 13-Jan-2015 1:02:19
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Since OWB is memory hungry I'd check the memory first before doing anything else |
According to Fab on Morphzone, it's memory leaks in webkit, which in this day and age of 2gig memory and beyond, is more an issue for us than users of other platforms.
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 13-Jan-2015 21:16:21
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Hello
I have had the same problems with downloading larger files with OS4.1,6 But i have just installed OS 4.1 FE and now i can download large files without lockups. just downloaded a 2.1 GB file. before i was happy if it reached 300MB
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 13-Jan-2015 23:08:04
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Good news. I figured it could be ram. If you use cheap ram some peg2 OF have trouble with it.
As far as DSI its an OS4 thing prolly not a peg thing. |
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 13-Jan-2015 23:09:01
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Id rather pay a few more dollars and get the oem to fix it than a 3rd party. also it goes to help bplan... |
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 14-Jan-2015 13:21:19
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I think I'll try to purchase AO4.1FE and see how it goeas on a clean install...
With new capacitors however things improved so maybe also a clean install may help...on MOS things goes really better...
Also I'm not so sure to spend much money to investigate furthermore since machine was quite usable now... _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY. |
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 14-Jan-2015 14:05:31
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Id rather pay a few more dollars and get the oem to fix it than a 3rd party. also it goes to help bplan...
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i am with you but the case was not just a few dollars amount.Last edited by Morphix on 14-Jan-2015 at 02:07 PM.
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 18-Apr-2015 21:23:29
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since about 3 months passed from my cpu card capacitors exchange I'll share my experience... For about 3 month I use my Pegasos2 quite productively and without really big problems...not still so rock(some weird crash occurs sometimes especially on cold boot and/or heavy net situations, but maybe can be some OWB related stuffs also...), also the hdd problems seems to be solved... In conclusion I'm now using the Pegasos2 for all and also used for heavy OWB/Drive and/or Box sessions and also "heavy" coding with Hollywood and I'm happy of it! If any new(serious) problem will occur I'll post it here again...for the moment silently go on... ;) _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY. |
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 18-Apr-2015 21:27:37
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 19-Apr-2015 6:37:02
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Awesome man i love Peg2 as a amigang hw platform. but now with morphos support for "x5000" coming out that might the new cool platform, but i sure cant justify the upgrade both in performance and price.
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 19-Apr-2015 14:14:30
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| Glad you seem to have solved the problem. I have been testing a couple of DDR memory modules, but I am not sure if its compatible with this computer.
The most impressive memory module to date is the kingston KHX3200ULK2 (Ultra Low Latency) *BGA* version. Not only was it able to overclock over 460Mhz @CL2 it was able to do this at the minimum voltage range 2.4v. ... JEDEC standard is 2.5v.
It will be interesting if anyone is using BGA type of memory other than TSOP which seems to be more common. Last edited by delshay on 20-Apr-2015 at 01:11 AM. Last edited by delshay on 19-Apr-2015 at 02:20 PM. Last edited by delshay on 19-Apr-2015 at 02:17 PM.
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 21-May-2015 21:10:06
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| there maybe a solution to getting 2GB of ram working on this computer, not sure if it will work, but i need to know following questions.
can you adjust the voltage for ram? or is it fixed at 2.5v.
if adjustable what is it range?
the problems i found with some DDR memory modules is the speed, voltage & heat issues. stability issues were found not only on 512mb modules but also on 1GB modules.
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 22-May-2015 23:22:01
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dunno
to me 2GB works fine for some year and after the paegasos2 was stopped for about 2 years(from my child born) I got the problem... I thing that the off period hae broke something... :( _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY. |
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 23-May-2015 6:27:22
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| if you have 2GB of ram working on this computer, can user(s) please post make & model, but most importantly the part number written across the chip. _________________ The Machine: Bride Of The Pin•Bot by Williams Electronics |
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 26-May-2015 7:21:40
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Here I've only the broken chip(dont works also on a PC) the other (that works on a PC I've give it as gift to my friend... THe weird thing was that suddendly the 2 banks dont works anymore and sine one wask effecively broken the othe one wont works here on my Peg2 but on a pc yes... Maybe some weird happens on my mobo...
However...the broken chip was a Kingston one with that number on the chips:
0840VSR K58C2512804SAI5 V2485204HQAQD
Hope that helps... _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY. |
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 27-May-2015 9:08:40
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Kingston DDR400 memories are known to be ultra-resistent and hard to kill but the fact it's running at 420 isn't really what Kingston had in mind I guess :P
There are actually DDR1 memories rated as DDR533 and working cool (even cooler at DDR400) but the thing that I get no info on is what is FSB in SAMs and Pegasos related to FSB bus on motherboard,multipliers for CPU and again dividers for memory.
As far as I know those should all be divided by /33 for any sort of stable works.You can use DDR266 memory on Windows XP as 333 or even 400 (if it's Kingston or Kingmax) but that means shorter life span of memory (and yes even Windows might or not work well with that).
Are there any specs available to public about those moherboards regarding those details ? If someone made it work it's probably not only up to the manufacturer as they all use same chips but more depending on FSB/Divider/Multiplier.
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Re: Pegasos2 hardware problem? Posted on 15-Jun-2015 13:00:24
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| Testing of DDR 1Gb module is coming to a end.
I looked into a number of DDR 3200 & the main problem I discovered is heat related problem here's what I found on some memory modules.
1. A light was shown down though the memory module & to my amazement I can see the light at the other end. Looking very carefully I can clearly see very poor contact between the thermal tape & memory chip, this method was also tested on memory modules with the heatsink glued direct to the chip, faults found here too.
2. some memory module seems to be fake, removing heatsinks has shown a different name when heatsinks were removed with original label still attached.
Poor or fake PCB was also found.
I will list a small number of memory modules I would like someone to try, but the end user should have the skill to add PC-2100 profile in the SPD, these memory module even passed the voltage tolerance 2.3v @400Mhz which is not normal, JEDEC standard is 2.4v, but normal operation of DDR is 2.5v
Custom Private Memory Module is being prepared with 2-2-2-5 timing. Last edited by delshay on 15-Jun-2015 at 08:03 PM. Last edited by delshay on 15-Jun-2015 at 01:10 PM. Last edited by delshay on 15-Jun-2015 at 01:05 PM. Last edited by delshay on 15-Jun-2015 at 01:01 PM.
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