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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 26-Apr-2015 21:12:07
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If you don't like emulation, don't use Petunia, RunInUAE, or FS-UAE. Oops. But you don't own a PowerPC machine neither you have a copy of OS4. Sorry, you cannot try OS4 without using the emulation.


I never said that I didn't like emulation, I emulate Windows XP on a Mac so I don't have to buy a PC (don't want to offend any IBM Compatible loving chums here do we ) Running an emulator to use an AmigaOS build compiled for old PPC card chips from the late 90s is a lot different to using built in emulation layers within operating systems e.g. 68k Mac emulation on Mac OSX Tiger and PPC Mac emulation on Mac OSX Snow Leopard. The former is a massive hog of system resources, inevitably can't compare to the feeling/user experience of 'real modern' hardware (for example the Sam and X1000 version of AmigaOS) whereas the latter while having still high overheads is approaching seamless operation (RunInUAE has had great reports in this area) and as it is emulating a generation of CPU/Graphics/Games/Applications further back into the past the overheads are manageable and the experience pleasant.

While I have no problem relegating Windows to the position of secondary emulated OS to 'mess around with' on my Mac (as I don't consider myself a Windows user I just dip in to use some specific applications that my Mac doesn't support). I don't see how relegating AmigaOS to a secondary OS to 'mess about with' on Windows is going to really going to grow the platform or lead to more serious users or developers! That is what Amiga Forever is for; booting up the emulator to mess around with some nostalgic apps and games. AmigaOS 4.x is supposed to looking to the future, both hardware and software. It is depressing that a few people here just see AmigaOS as a desktop app to supplement their Windows experience.

Amiga Forever's business model works to feed the nostalgic emulation crowd, sadly due to the investment made into AmigaOS compatible hardware and software an actual investment in the platform is required to keep this all going. I don't expect AmigaOS to still exist in 10 years time unless I (and others) buy both new AmigaOne hardware AND AmigaOS software. I also don't live with the pipe dream that should the companies involved fail we will all get to 'mess around' with the AmigaOS source code in order to make our own Open Source AmigaOS utopia as some people here expect

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ExiE 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 26-Apr-2015 21:59:39
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@BigD
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I don't expect AmigaOS to still exist in 10 years time unless I (and others) buy both new AmigaOne hardware AND AmigaOS software.

Not necessarily. AmigaOS could continue without AmigaOne computers, but it does not apply vice versa.

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I also don't live with the pipe dream that should the companies involved fail we will all get to 'mess around' with the AmigaOS source code in order to make our own Open Source AmigaOS utopia as some people here expect
Finally some thought I can agree with.
Even though if one of Amiga(-like) systems fails, people might concentrate on one of the other two. And that could be positive after all...

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 26-Apr-2015 23:09:58
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@BigD

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Oversimplified wishful thinking. In reality money saved for such frivolous hobby spending gets used to fix the car, pay for new shoes for the little one or for the family holiday. Heck, if the wife needs a laptop for her audio production needs then I'm hardly warranted in using the money to buy a X1000 am I? When Blockbuster went bust and I was trying to work out a better way to rent movies, I deduced that buying a PS3 or Smart TV obviously made a better choice than an Amiga OS4.x machine. If there was a well designed and cheap AmigaOS based Consumer Electronic machine like the CDTV/CD32 (or modern equivalent like the PS3 that could have run a PPC operating system) I would always favour that, but we fell into the trap of making AmigaOne systems the best systems at running AmigaOS and little else for a while.


What can you put aside though and what would your upper limit be for an OS4 system in your current situation?

If you sold your A4000T (I'm not saying you have to) and put the money aside would it remain outouched. If your little one needed something would you feel compelled to dip into that money or would you find the money elsewhere like you'd have had to do otherwise. Would your wife also respect that the money is put aside for that hobby or would she put pressure on you to use some of it?

The X5000 isn't going to be much cheaper than the X1000 so if you don't have any firm idea where the money is going to come from you might as well forget it because it's not going to happen.

If your really serious about getting an OS4 system then perhaps you should set your sights on a second hand Sam. There's currently an AmigaONE 500 in the classifieds for around 500, if that's too high then could you afford a Sam440 system if it came up for 200-300?

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@BigD

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I don't expect AmigaOS to still exist in 10 years time unless I (and others) buy both new AmigaOne hardware AND AmigaOS software.


I don't expect it to exist in it's current business model in 10 years time. At some point they really need to move away from low volume custom hardware. The sooner an x86 version is made the better as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@thread

This thread is done. The language exhibited by some is dragging this down and there is nothing more to add on the topic at hand.

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