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Morphix 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 3:35:27
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A good chance to rewrite the OS from scratch having in mind todays standards, and make it available on affortable hardware for everyone.


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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Agreed. Especially A-EON pumping a lot of money into hardware and buying legacy software doesn't make much sense to me if they know that the OS company is going belly up and don't already have a solution to continue OS development. On the other hand, what does make sense in Amiga land?


Honestly as far as Amigaland sense guys there are 3 companies that have supported the community from day one of their existence and have done what they said they would do time and they are: AmigaKit, A-Cube, & A-Eon !

It's been getting better & better for AmigaOS in general since 2009 when the darn lawsuit case was finally settled. The last few years have been amazing in terms of progress especially on the hardware front, OS in general, and Hans work on the HDRadeon cards and I'm positive the 3 companies that have recently set things right in Amigaland will still 'keep the party going'

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Morphix wrote:
A good chance to rewrite the OS from scratch having in mind todays standards, and make it available on affortable hardware for everyone.



we already have AROS which is free & works on pretty darn anything including the Pie and then there's MorphOS which is inexpensive for licencing and runs on junkyard old Macs so again what you mentioned has been already available to the public for quite a while.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Hyperion is bankrupt?


With the boost generated from OS 4.1 FE sales has someone taken the money and run?

Will there be YAAA? (Yet Another AEON Announcement.) AEON buys out Hyperion.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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None of the so called NG OSes are really much NG, they all suffer from exactly the same limitations that OS3.x does. I agree with Morphix, an Amiga inspired OS but with modern foundation would be insanely much better than what OS4, MorphOS and AROS are today. Of all the OS4 propotions and ideas that existed since Commodore went bust, the current OS4 is the least interesting. Fundamentally it is not much other than OS3.x port to PowerPC. Back in mid 90ies there were much, much better proposals around, proposals which could have been implemented and made Amiga a modern and relevant operating system. Ironically Apple went ahead, bought NeXT and with Steve Jobs at the helm did exactly for MacOS what so many of us wanted with AmigaOS. Imagine having something like OSX but with AmigaOS type of desktop handling etc.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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we already have AROS which is free & works on pretty darn anything including the Pie and then there's MorphOS which is inexpensive for licencing and runs on junkyard old Macs so again what you mentioned has been already available to the public for quite a while.


we are talking abiut AmigaOS now.

Edit: Nevermind the name, bring the amiga spirit in 2015 without the limitations of the past and call it with any name.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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None of the so called NG OSes are really much NG, they all suffer from exactly the same limitations that OS3.x does. I agree with Morphix, an Amiga inspired OS but with modern foundation would be insanely much better than what OS4, MorphOS and AROS are today. Of all the OS4 propotions and ideas that existed since Commodore went bust, the current OS4 is the least interesting. Fundamentally it is not much other than OS3.x port to PowerPC. Back in mid 90ies there were much, much better proposals around, proposals which could have been implemented and made Amiga a modern and relevant operating system. Ironically Apple went ahead, bought NeXT and with Steve Jobs at the helm did exactly for MacOS what so many of us wanted with AmigaOS. Imagine having something like OSX but with AmigaOS type of desktop handling etc.


this.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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we already have AROS which is free & works on pretty darn anything including the Pie and then there's MorphOS which is inexpensive for licencing and runs on junkyard old Macs so again what you mentioned has been already available to the public for quite a while.


we are talking abiut AmigaOS now.


yes of course my point was we already have 2 very similar options to AmigaOS already out and available on EVERYTHING so I strongly doubt having AmigaOS running on Pies etc will make any difference. AROS & MorphOS is more than enough for the casual old amiga user and new user to mess around with

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@thread

Arix might be an interesting option also. It's the next generation of hosted Aros on Linux.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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OS4 proposal from 1996

[img align=left]http://www.amiga.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1251[/img]

Oh, that worked well :)

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@klx300r

All those OSes you described including AmigaOS have the same limitations. One OS could be better in specific parts compared to another but the basis is the same.

Well this sad Hyperion fact may be a good reason for a total rotation change.

Forget the 90s. Bring the Amiga spirit on 2015, in modern, fast, affortable hardware.

Native, not under linux.

Modern, to hardware released today, select a modern platform and support it to the max.

Enough with the 68k. Built an emulator and run all the classics on a window.

Make this machine a useful piece of kit, not an elitistic outstanding of just a name.

I want to watch hd videos, browse the net, listen to music, write my docs, play games on an Amiga machine with the 2015 standards. Not the 90s stabdards.

Pi costed me a few euros and did all the above natively.

If pi is capable of all these, Amiga can do it better. Under any name. We do not care about names we want the spirit.


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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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One could cooperate with Matt Dillon and use DragonFly BSD as foundation, that would be so historically correct ;)

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@kolla

Yes a nee, native heart. Covered with the wb touch :)

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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One (or both?) of the Friedens already wrote about what the next big step of AOS would be at amigans.net, did you all miss that? It would (will) be a new kernel and include memory protection etc. There where lots of people being afraid I recall but I thought that it made sense, what other ways are there? AmigaOS 4.1 FE should be the last AOS built upon the old kernel.

If it'll happen, who knows but I think that it will happen. Hyperion has always been a company that keep their promises (ok, not about the laptop) and it seems to belong to very clever Amiga-loving peoples.

But then, I'm waiting for some news to shed a light on this subject.

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kolla 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@hotrod

Link please? Adding something that will fundamentally change the OS and cause all kinds of incompatibily sounds more like OS5 than OS4.2, heh.

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@kolla,

Like i said elsewhere, it ain't over til the fat lady sings! I'll wait for an announcement.

Chris

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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No way OS4 is down the drain with this. Hyperion might be but you underestimate the business sense of these people if you think they would let is slip into oblivion.

I don't see how this can be bad news for OS4 though, they have had what 10? years of business opportunity and OS4 user base has not grown at all since OS was marketed to the masses, instead they have chased away hundreds (probably thousands) of potential users with their strategy so I don't see how marketing decisions couldn't get better now when there might be a opportunity for it to happen.....

IF it's not all the same people that will row this next boat of theirs

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Damn! Strange because how could this happen? I mean Hyperion was it a serious company or just a hobby which gots boring and this is a planned action.

Common... Ben was on the serious guys here around.
I mean his legal actions where always a guaranty of fair play.

And than... Are we talking about what in Germany is called (insolvency) is amigaos now part of the "insolvenzmasse".... ?

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@OlafS25

The quote a famous writer: "the news of our demise is greatly exaggerated" ;)

This is the result of an unfortunate administrative mishap by a third party and is in the process of being addressed/cleared up.

This may take a while as everything takes a while in Belgium whilst it comes to administrative and judicial matters.

Those dancing on our grave, sorry guys, no party here ;)

Hyperion Entertainment Directors



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