@cdimauro

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ExecSG seems to be owned by the twins (which is well known that they don't like x86/x64

Really?

"It may surprise you (and others) but I would really like to port AmigaOS 4.1 to x86."

http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=23172#forumpost23172

@kriz

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Many did not buy the Cybervision gfx card, its really good but its missing any scandoubler/monitor switcher .. Alot with cybervisions and picasso cards had this pleasure allready ...

Fair enough. Still, most configurations I saw listed on the web were with Permedia2 or Voodoo cards.

@imigger

You missed it, Hyperion has opposed/appeal the bankruptcy claim, sure AmigaOS4 has not been profitable business, but it will live on, and why should I sell my computer it's 10000 times better than Amiga4000, and I'm enjoying it a lot more.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

applied = opposed ?

Dyslexia noted, wouldn't normally correct you, but the meaning of your posting is unclear.

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@Boot_WB

He surely meant appeal.

@imigger

The type of people your dealing with here, is the type of people that stayed when commodore went bankrupt in 1994, they continued to enjoy their hobby, writing software or using Amiga computers. If hypothetically Hyperion goes bankrupt, many OS4 developers will continue to write software for it, because they enjoy it, people who use the systems will continue to use these systems.

The only thing that is in japery is the continued development of AmigaOS4.1, some of this components are owned by the developers them self, they might decide to continue working on their parts and sell them separately.

Besides have many years does Amiga have left, you might as well enjoy it while it lasts.
AmigaOS4.1 is major improvement over AmigaOS3.9, and going back is no option.

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you might have to go back when your ppc goes bang .

how will you run os4.1 without the hardware ?

and dont be too sad theres always linux much better than os4 .

lol lol you dont run real amiga,s yours are pretending its just an emu , and i can run some shit with an emu , come on get real you all got sucked in and now youve been shit on .

thats what you get for not having cheaper hardware , so i say tough love.

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@imigger

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how will you run os4.1 without the hardware ?

I have two systems, so if one goes bang no problem, anyway, A-EON has not gone bankrupt, and they might make compatible system or hire developers to make drivers.

There is WinUAE, but I am not a WinUAE fan, if that was the only option then I quit.

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and dont be too sad theres always linux much better than os4 .

Before AmigaOS4.0 pre developer release, I used Linux, RedHat I enjoyed it, but there is one problem with Linux, and its upgrades, keeping the soft linked .so files in sync, and keeping package monument in order over many years of upgrade, after 5 or 10 years will just need to reinstall Linux because it has become a mess. Then you need to reinstall the software you installed and reconfigure the software over as well.

Whit AmigaOS4.1 if you most reinstall it, you do not need to reinstall the software I most cases, you might want to take a backup of some fonts, libraries you installed yourself, and some of prefs files in ENVARC:, but that’s all you need to keep, the rest can be pretty much be replaced, without effecting the programs.

Well there might not be many advantages AmigaOS4.1, has over Linux, but being less nerdy is one, you do not need to like dig in man files and spend your day reading about how things work, you don't need to know a lot of scripts, (simply put it can be less hazel, in some ways.)
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come on get real you all got sucked in

You might say that about everything I own, I been sucked in buying mobile phone, I have been sucked in buying my car,

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and now you've been shit on .

Well they are not bankrupt just yet, and Its was my choice, to begin with so no, that is not the case.

Not by Hyperion, not by A-EON, not by ACube-Systems, Eyetech was maybe a Scam (selling poor quality hardware and offering no repair service).

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thats what you get for not having cheaper hardware , so i say tough love.

It was my money I invested, and I will continue to use the hardware, the hardware does not stop working becouse Eyetech went out of business, and hardware did not stop working when Commodore when out of business, nor will if Hyperion does.

Hyperion can't do anything about hardware prices, that a A-EON / ACube-System Business. Hyperion might tried to do it cheaper/smarter, a few idea come to mind.

1. No printing CD's and convers, and not selling throw AmiKit and computer stores, but sell the products them self from their own web page as downloads. (Cut shipment costs, cut middleman out, cut out production costs.)

2. Stop giving free support; make it a one-year subscription fee.

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@pavlor

Yes the best combination, CybervisionPPC + Cybervision64 + CyberGfx
As fittet in my A4000 Z7 Tower.

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@Rob

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Rob wrote: @cdimauro Quote: ExecSG seems to be owned by the twins (which is well known that they don't like x86/x64 Really? "It may surprise you (and others) but I would really like to port AmigaOS 4.1 to x86." http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=23172#forumpost23172

Nice to see it a change of mind, but also:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=17&topic_id=19063&post_id=294497&viewmode=thread&order=0#294497
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=14&topic_id=13423&post_id=188679&viewmode=thread&order=0#188679

BTW, it's interesting that at about the same time that Cell was incensed (see bottom of the last link), I was stating exactly the contrary on the most important Italian's technology portal.

@cdimauro

Your links are from pre-2009 Settlement Agreement time - not much valid anymore.

@pavlor: yes, but I don't think that they have fallen in love with x86, after that.

@cdimauro

I especially laugh at point 2

"Reason 2: x86 equals Windows"

It's such a lousy reason.

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@Manu

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Manu wrote: @cdimauro I especially laugh at point 2 "Reason 2: x86 equals Windows" It's such a lousy reason.

Almost as much as "aros will kick ubuntu" wich in turn has been said 3 days ago instead of 10 years...

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@Nibunnoichi

Yes I laugh at that too. Aros will not kick anything, but x86 equals Windows I mean just LOL !!!

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your harware sucks if you could run windows you would ,lets face it your ppc crud can hardly do anything very little software has come out since it was made .
there so boring its like a gui with nowt to do on it hell it struggles to play mp3,s or burn a disk lol lol.

it sucks having ppc in this day and age especially when its gone bust lol lol.

SUCKERS

@imigger

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@imigger

Trolling is illegal on this site, just to warn you.
And you should spell check what you write, it's hard to read.

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your hardware sucks if you could run windows you would

I do use windows on PC with i5 as well, AmigaOS is hobby for me, it's not something I depend on.
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lets face it your ppc crud can hardly do anything very little software has come out since it was made .

Well you have mostly what you needs all the 3 x NG communities are tiny, compared to WarpUP, PowerUP, AmigaOS4.x lot more successful, but compared to MacOSX/Windows/Linux, Amiga it's tiny.
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there so boring its like a gui with nothing to do on it hell it struggles to play mp3,s or burn a disk lol lol.

This shows you do not know what you are taking about, powerpc is what used in PS3, have you seen a PowerMac G5 in action, AmigaONE-X1000 with PA5T? I guess not.

720p videos can be played on One of the Two cores of PA5T, the PA5T can almost play 1080p video without aid from GPU or hardware acceleration (besides YUV422 support).

Sure it can't keep up with a I5/I7 PC, but in most cases it fast enough.

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it sucks having ppc in this day and age especially when its gone bust lol lol.

They will most likely out last any PC, PowerPC chips have long lifespan, PC's do not have any value when they get old.

Maybe you're thinking about the Prisma Megamix sound card for Amiga from A-EON, but this sound card is for old Amiga computer from 1992/1994 that has old Motorola 680x0 CPU's, the classic Amiga computers only has 8bit sound and 4 channels that be mixed into 14bit x 2 channels, a PowerPC have no problem to decode OGG/MP3 files, hell a 68040 25Mhz chip can do that. But an Old computer from 1992/1994 might get bit better sound quality from a decoder chip.

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@imigger,

My A1XE came with Linux, ran ok till I did A "Get Apt" to update. Locked out of it and and deleted It, so much for that. I have a windows machine for some games, So what.

I like Amiga OS because! Will not put anything else on my 68K or PPC machines and no, you can't talk me out of it!

Spread your $!#@ somewhere else please.