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OlafS25 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 1-Mar-2015 18:15:37
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LOL

Ok you can then report us about the run of disappointed AROS and MorphOS user to AmigaOS

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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I can't stopp laughing about you and wawa

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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i'm not. i think the whole back-and-forth is completely pointless. people like what they like, for whatever reason. i fail to see why it's necessary to try and find unhappiness 'on the other side' to score points in an infantile argument that keeps on going and going and going. i sometimes think that long after every amiga developer has left the platform -- or its spinoffs -- these absurd and childish fights over 68k vs PPC vs x86, AROS vs AOS, MOS vs AOS, and the like will be all that's left.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Did not need to read more then the front page to see the disappointments.


well then, if it comforts you. but as a hint, the problem may not be with people expressing disappointment when its due, but rather with those comforted with nothing.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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I can't stopp laughing about you and wawa

happy to be of service.

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and you

Mr. "i need money to show my X1000"

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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i sometimes think that long after every amiga developer has left the platform -- or its spinoffs -- these absurd and childish fights over 68k vs PPC vs x86, AROS vs AOS, MOS vs AOS, and the like will be all that's left.


this is a discussion forum, if it is what people like to argue about, then we have an evergreen subject. good for traffic. i rather fear the subject might go away. but for the record, it wasnt me who stated the controversial these, that os4 users would escape to mos or aros, neither did i tried to dig for discomfort on either side.

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if one of the platform officially cease development some users will continue to use what they have, some will look at other platforms and some will leave.

To the topic, I personally would prefer if there would be a change of ownership regarding AmigaOS because at the moment the situation is like concrete and there are certain persons who polarize. But we will see.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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I will certainly not give it to you do not worry

And I would never ask like you do

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@eliyahu

On the other hand, if we keep on going, we might find the secret to free energy and the infinity engine.

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and the answer to all questions of the world

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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that os4 users would escape to mos or aros, neither did i tried to dig for discomfort on either side.


Come on don't stop the celebration already.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=39913&forum=14&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0#751488

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Come on don't stop the celebration already. http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=39913&forum=14&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0#751488


Nuts, what you are not getting there is a separation in people's mind. If you talk to most folks who really loath Hyperion, it's their opinion of one single person. It's not about OS4 code, it's not about Timothy who was running Hyperion, it boils down to one person who the majority can't stand. OS4 is simply a chapter in the long Amiga timeline and some person or company will get the license for Amiga OS if Hyperion is liquidated. IMNSHO, I think the best possible thing for OS4 fans is that Hyperion is liquidated (or an equivalent) and AmigaOS gets a fresh reboot into something modern that makes not only Amiga fans of all walks happy, but makes economic sense.

Clearly it's time for new leadership and a bold effort to reboot AmigaOS. That is something that can not happen with Hyperion as we know it.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=39913&forum=14&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0#751488


im not sure what you are referring to. my question, if os4 might become aeon property, down the page?

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wawa 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Nuts, what you are not getting there is a separation in people's mind. If you talk to most folks who really loath Hyperion, it's their opinion of one single person. It's not about OS4 code, it's not about Timothy who was running Hyperion, it boils down to one person who the majority can't stand. OS4 is simply a chapter in the long Amiga timeline and some person or company will get the license for Amiga OS if Hyperion is liquidated. IMNSHO, I think the best possible thing for OS4 fans is that Hyperion is liquidated (or an equivalent) and AmigaOS gets a fresh reboot into something modern that makes not only Amiga fans of all walks happy, but makes economic sense.


im not sure if i really agree with any of points this time.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Now I understand where Hyperion Entertainment is coming from

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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It impossible to know, who is going to buy it, I know one thing, it can easily end up hands of some who don't know what they are doing, ESCOM, VISCORP, Gateway 2000, Amiga Inc to name a few, even worst someones private nostalgia collection (Memorabilia).

Apple or Microsoft, just bury it once and for all.
(Apple did buy P. A. Semi)

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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I don' t like the fact that you wrote those articles with the only evident purpose to throw shit over OS4, both software and hardware!

All articles go to the same direction, all have the same conclusions: that OS4 is crap and it is defunct!

All people here can verify my words, articles written in Italian only, I can translate to English where needed: http://www.appuntidigitali.it/

Nothing more to say.

Of course there are good and bad things in every system, but someone only sees the negativities ... always.

Before talking about translating something from Italian to English, it's better that you AT LEAST know the content and the meaning of the Italians parts.

For example, in another thread you asked for some information about the L1 cache of the PA6T mounted on the AmigaOne X1000. If you would have read my articles, as you falsely stated, you should know that I've already covered this aspect and reported such data.

Here's the article: http://www.appuntidigitali.it/14272/i-nuovi-amiga-powerpc-amigaone-x1000/

And I report now the part regarding the L1 cache. In Italian:

"Molto positiva la presenza di 64KB di cache L1 per il codice e altrettanti per i dati"

Roughly translated in English:

"Very positive the presence of 64KB L1 cache for the code and the same for the data"

Have I thrown shit over the OS4 hardware? Have I stated that it's crap? Have I only seen negativities? The answer is clearly NO!

Let's take a look at the conclusions regarding the whole CPU. Again, in Italian:

"dal punto di vista prestazionale confronti precisi è difficile farne; tutto dipenderà dal tipo di codice che andranno a eseguire, e quindi bisognerà vedere “sul campo” come si comporterà questo nuovo arrivato, anche se la mia impressione è che gli ultimi G5 dovrebbero risultare leggermente superiori"

Roughly translated in English:

"from the performance point of view it is difficult to make precise comparisons; everything will depend on the type of code that runs, and then we must see "on the field" the behavior of this newcomer, although my impression is that the last G5s should be slightly higher"

Again, it was NOT a critical-only judgment. On the contrary, it was a positive one, since the PA6T wasn't a performance-oriented CPU, compared to the G5 which was designed for the exact opposite reasons.

Looking only at the specs and the documentation available at the time, my analysis was VERY OPTIMISTIC (read: POSITIVE JUDGMENT!), since after that, with real code/applications, such CPU shown quite different results: it was/is on average below the last G4s, and well below the G5s.

So, this clearly shows two things: you haven't read my articles, and you're reporting just lies, since in the articles I haven't "only sees the negativities" (your words). Your behavior is typical of a blind fanboy which have to make an holy war against the constituted "enemy of the faith".
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In general, if you don' t like OS4, why you waste your time with it?

See above. And I repeat again: my articles expose technical stuff. There are good things reported, as well bad things, like what happens with such kind of articles. If you don't like them due to an evident prejudice against the author, well, you don't have to read them... like you have clearly proven.

What do you want is to silent me. But removing critics doesn't mean that the bad things will magically disappear. That's a quite romantic and immature view of the life. You should know that the world isn't made of castles and beautiful princesses waiting for their Prince Charming...

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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it can easily end up hands of some who don't know what they are doing

which, when i think of it, could occur to be an advantage, at least in comparison to what happened so far. honestly, if you think back and look at the outcome, could there be more... erm, lets call it "mishap"?

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