What happened to the apollo-core forum? It looks very empty.
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php

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@wawa

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wawa wrote: @asymetrix gunnar is perfectly reasonable on this. you have no choice to run amiga natively other than on a 68k compatible cpu. for linux you have got all kinds of hardware better supported and faster than 68k or ppc. certainly there are people who would like to do that, but that depends on actual interest, cooperation and the good will and capabilities and of the project team

I find it strange. The apollo-core web site says nothing about the core being Amiga exclusive, on contrary, www.apollo-core.com does not mention Amiga at all, and instead focus on how great apollo-core performs against ARM and PowerPC cores. This looks like marketing the core well outside the Amiga sphere, which means embedded market. Which operating system is today the leading and most used operating system for embedded? Which operating systems exist for both ARM and PowerPC, and also m68k? VxWorks? No. Linux? Yes.

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@BigGun

I missed your response to this back then. I didn't mean for the hardware side, I meant for the software side. If one guy has sufficient interest in making Linux work on a new device or new variant of an old device, it will happen.

Allthough making the existing Linux code not work on it and expecting it to gain traction outside die-hard Amiga circles might not be the BEST plan

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@kolla

I wonder that too... I cannot even log in as if database has vanished or is empty

@OlafS25

Oh well, seems like someone has finally realized that RTG etc requires RAM.

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?71144-Vampire-600-V2-Amiga-600-FPGA-accelerator-Pre-order&p=716101&viewfull=1#post716101

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@kolla: finally! It seems that often engineers live in their parallel universe. No reality check...

@kolla

same problem here cannot login :(

I think their database vanished.

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@ALL

Even more exciting in a year or a few years 10x speed increase over an original Amiga 4000. That was the NATAMI goal, the NATAMI dream. APOLLO team you
rock the MiniMig bless DENIS can rest in peace... AAA++ Chipset here we come!

http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=1467&z=yZoxDB

ccording to AMIGA Benchmakr Sysinfo
the upcoming SILVER 7 CORE update is 10 Mips faster .

Here is the result of a Black-Vampire in an Amiga2000 using SILVER7 core.

I'm excited I know I have an Amiga 4000 stashed away for a special day like a Vampire Upgrade. I also have a few other machines kept for good measure.

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@ALL
So why would all of this be any good to the NG Amiga PPC team!
Well, in addition to my cyber rattling - if more of the old/new school programmers with classic development skills create more 68K software then more PPC users can have access to better 68K software via the UAE-JIT for PPC platforms! And of-course PPC will one day be 10x faster than the current models... HAHA!

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@meet.mrnrg

Yes I'm with you here, clean programmed 68K software does work under any NG system, so a benefit for all.

@bennymee

it depends, since AmigaOS 4.x contained deprecated functions, clean 68k applications may not work if they use them. It really depends if they're still in the system for backward compatibility or removed.

Kamelito
http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/Deprecated_Functions

@QuikSanz

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Hmm, maybe SMP for OS4.2 can be compiled for 68k. We see.

Dude you are living in PURE FANTASYLAND stop talking about "SMP" please listen closely i dont want you to have hopes:

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

@realize

Its not going to happen the way they want to go about it.
But we have discussed this before.

Next thing you know, people will be asking for multi-core 68K SMP.

@iggy

I feel like a young man again.... GIVE GIVE GIVE me SMP / MultiCore 68K
LoL - endless possibilities here really - LONG LIVE FPGA AMIGA.

Here's a crystal ball FGPA like Amiga's will far outlive any PPC or ARM or INTEL

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@meet.mrnrg

There are softcores for ARM and PowerPC too, I would not be surprised if we get to see PPC softcores used to run OS4 and MorphOS sometime soonish.

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@kolla
Why should you use a PPC softcore?
Because its slower and more expensive?

For 68k it makes sense because you can´t buy a better 68k chip.

@iggy et al,

Back in the 1990s, there were dual 68060 boards made for the Unix market. Yet, even if a dual 68k board or UAE emulation could be created for Amiga, OS 3.x would not likely be able to take advantage of it.

On another note, around 1997 or 1998, I e-mailed Carl Sassenrath concerning a comment he and Petro had made about keeping Amiga 68k. He would have liked Gateway to have leveraged Motorola to make 100 - 200 MHz 68040/060s. Now we have the realization of Sassenrath's dream with the Apollo cores.

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@meet.mrnrg

I will keep the X5000 I intend to buy until I die, so the eventual longevity of either PPC systems or legacy hardware is not important to me.
There is a finite supply of legacy chips, but the hardware can be recreated via the use of FPGAs.

And I am still involved with creating and using 68K based hardware outside of the Amiga.
The fact that the 68020 is back in production is interesting.
Obviously Motorola's legacy will live for some time to come.

But I have seen better implementations of the 68K than the Amiga (and yes, there are multi-processor systems), and NG OS' are certainly more advanced than OS3.1-3.9.

So I keep some legacy Amiga hardware around, but its not a primary concern of mine.