@Boot_WB

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Boot_WB wrote: The Amiga.org thread isn't even based upon an official announcement, although Geit's subsequent reply can be taken as such.

And bigfoot!

I'd say it's pretty much official. It usually don't get more official than this when it comes to the MorphOS Team.


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Extrapolating from this that multiple families of graphics cards will be 'fully supported' at the time of release seems a little premature.

There are many sources, you can pick info from many places. The MorphOS developers aren't really that silent if you know where to look.

@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @TRIPOS Quote: Yeah, the 20-30 FPS (SAM) and 40-50 FPS (X1000) running Quake3 demo on HD7000/R7 cards blew us all away! In ANY resolution. Be it 800x600 or 1600x1200...

The difference between the high/low resolution I have seen on the same test/machine is almost 30% (26.5% and 29.7%) so it's not like there isn't a difference. And for a HD7000/R7 all these numbers are ridiculous, no matter the difference, so...

But there already exist a thread for this, go here!

@TRIPOS

800x600 - 32.9 FPS
1024x768 - 31.6 FPS
1280x1024 - 29.9 FPS
1600x1200 - 28.4 FPS

I hope math is not your source of income.

@mr2

My attitude? Maybe I just got tired of constant "war".

Maybe other parts are slower but overall performance is still better, as proven on some benchmarks done in the past.

@pavlor

My reply is in the proper, on topic thread!

@TRIPOS

See my post 60 for for lowest resolution I (carefuly) selected.

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Hypex wrote: BTW AmigaOS4 is a real AmigaOS compiled from source.

From the original sources that were rewritten from scratch!

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@all

Reading the thread on A.org, I'm not so sure this event is set in cement.

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@kolla

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From the original sources that were rewritten from scratch!

Well, some components of AmigaOS didn´t changed in years (68k! IconEdit, MEmacs etc.).

@sundown

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Reading the thread on A.org, I'm not so sure this event is set in cement.

It may take few years (like SAM460 port)...

@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @sundown Quote: Reading the thread on A.org, I'm not so sure this event is set in cement. It may take few years (like SAM460 port)...

Of course it _may_. But as Bigfoot said the Sam port put a few Quark issues to light which got ironed out and speed up things now. The initial port to the X5000 was a two day job - sounds not too bad.

Anyway, currently awaiting arrival of 3.8 with the Sam support. X5000 support will not come before 3.10 . Which in not surprising as 3.8 is close and 3.9 will be a bug fixing release as the usual release circle is that evenly numbered releases introduce new features while the oddly numbered releases are primarily for bug fixes.

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I'm not sure what the logic of porting MorphOS to X5000 is, when it may cost about the same as X1000 (which I understood as the primary reason for no port). AFAIK, X1000 has been available in as much quantity as people were willing to buy it (manufactured in batches). Maybe MOS team changed their mind? Still, if they have to choose 1 machine to port, X5000 is obviously better as X1000 sales stopped by time of X5000 (if not already - I didn't check).

But anyway, it will be good to have: Competition is good for both OSes (at least if it doesn't get nasty), and choice of OS good for customers. And A-Eon may sell a few more X5000s, which is definitely good.

OK, going back to lurking under my stone...

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GREAT NEWS!!!

Hope they pull it through!

Perhaps they manage do virtualization and partitioning to run both AmigaOS4.2 and MorphOS3.1x at the same time on separate cores of the system!

((+ more R&D can now officially+unofficially focus on mastering Freescale SoC features like SATA controller, 10Gbit ethernet, Encryption engine, various other accelerators, etc etc...))

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Is there anywhere (a reverse engineered or original) block diagram of Cyrus+ motherboard?

I imagine 3PCIe channels are connected directly to 3 slots.
But as there seems to be 2more PCIe slots and two PCI slots, I imagine the fourth PCIe v2.0 is bridged to 2xPCI and 2xPCIe (perhaps v1.0). (bridge chip near those two x1 slots perhaps)

(just curious)

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@Hillbillylitre

Because the point of OS4 isn't to run old Amiga software but to run native software to which 100% of OS4 software runs natively on OS4.

Bu this isn't the first time people thought to dump OS4 and just run an emulated OS3.9 on a PC. Even before OS4 was relased that was doing the rounds. Of course that would be even more pointless than custom hardware, the OS would have never been developed futher, and would be 15 years more behind than what it is now.

@TRIPOS

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@Hypex

But the OS is still at least fifteen years behind, I thought people had learned fifteen years ago or are you all johnny-come-lately or something?

You're in a way in the same position as fifteen years ago or even further back when almost nothing worked and everything was hanging far behind, or even worse, you're stuck back at the time.

To me it almost look like you like to torture yourselves, to squeeze everything possible out of the machines was fun but you can't repeat it on those PPC Amiga wannabe machines and OSes if thats what you are trying to do...

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@Karlos

ah so that's why TMHTG hasn't been active on all OS4.x related threads over at the.org for a while

@ Franko

any recent pics of the squirrels after a long winter

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@Karlos

He doesn't need a new account though. His old AW account is still here:

http://amigaworld.net/userinfo.php?uid=5608

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@Hillbillylitre

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Hillbillylitre wrote: But the OS is still at least fifteen years behind, I thought people had learned fifteen years ago or are you all johnny-come-lately or something?

It's more complicated than that. You see, not only does Amiga time operate at a different speed to regular technology time, the time rate itself is non-linear.

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You're in a way in the same position as fifteen years ago or even further back when almost nothing worked and everything was hanging far behind, or even worse, you're stuck back at the time.

Fifteen years ago we were only five years behind. At that time Amiga time was more equal to regular human time. And if you didn't know how to tell technology time then you bought an EyeTech AmigaOne and you ran AmigaOS 4.0

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To me it almost look like you like to torture yourselves, to squeeze everything possible out of the machines was fun but you can't repeat it on those PPC Amiga wannabe machines and OSes if thats what you are trying to do...

To the outside observer it looks that way. As we move forward, Amiga time stretches out more and more, so to the outside observer it looks like OS 4.2 is taking a very very very very long time to come out. But you can't measure it using technology time, or even regular human time.

When you use Amiga time the benefit is your hardware ages much slower, and the next major OS update is always just around the corner; It's very exciting. Whilst in technology time the rate is increasing as it rushes toward the singularity, in Amiga time the rate is decreasing as things slow down toward the multiplicity; The point at which all Amiga hardware and software iterations are of equal age, and to a person in regular human time we will appear as if we're frozen. To a person in the singularity we will appear to be moving backwards in time. It's a general relativity thing.

Side note: What's a a Hillbilly litre? Is that like two quarts?

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@Hillbillylitre

And if that didn't blow your mind try this on for size:

Time, as in the clock of the universe, is itself slowing down. Which also means the speed limit, or the motion constant of the universe will decrease as well.

I know, right? This means that the speed of light will slow down as well. But this only matters to someone observing the universe from without. Inside, light will still travel at the speed of light.

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