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Hillbillylitre 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 21-Jun-2015 12:33:24
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@TRIPOS

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[quote](And no, it wasn't me who reported you, the day I will descend to such filthy Stasi/Nazi methods instead of standing up for my views openly, will be the day that hell freezes over! )

I guess its just a little OS4 fanboy in his forties still breastfeeding from his mother... Or they forgot to cut the umbilical cord.

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Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 21-Jun-2015 12:50:55
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@pavlor

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@Hillbillylitre

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The trolls are those who try to tric innocent people into buying junk like Hyperion Amiga OS4 classic.


I hope you at least tried that "junk".

Buy it just to try it? No way. Then I had to order it from across the border too because there are no stores in this country distributing OS4. So no f****** Way.

I can not even test it with any of all the Amiga owners I know either because its not compatible with Amiga computers, and they are mostly only interested in Amiga for nostalgic reasons and would never even offered OS4 nor any of the NG stuff the slightest thought.

Besides, the technical datas and youtube says its crap anyway.

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Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
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@Hillbillylitre

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No way.


I thought so.

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Ertilyllibllih 
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Hillbillylitre wrote:

I guess its just a little OS4 fanboy in his forties still breastfeeding from his mother... Or they forgot to cut the umbilical cord.

Gawd... It seems like Hillbillylitre once again hit the nerve and scored even three more points.

Its like trying to build crappy incompatible Duplo NG fanfiction O$ bricks together with real Amiga lego bricks. GAWD! When will you people learn that circle bricks dont fit triangular holes? You have been trying to match those for probably fifteen years now! I have been patient but GAWD I'm shit tired watching this nuthouse...


The Amiga Operating System is locked to its real Amiga hardware both software based and historically and there is nothing you can do about it.

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Rob 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
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@Ertilyllibllih

Vronko?

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pavlor 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 28-Jun-2015 8:20:56
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@Ertilyllibllih

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The Amiga Operating System is locked to its real Amiga hardware both software based and historically and there is nothing you can do about it.


Err, use Amiga OS 4?


And of course...

Welcome!

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tygre 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 11-Sep-2015 3:36:35
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@all

I just receive my copy of AmigaOS v4.1FE and installed it in WinUAE thanks to the great guides by Thomas and others

I am just amazed to be finally running 4.1! I find it quite usable although I am noticed that enabling A2065 emulation really slows down the OS... most likely a mis-configuration on my part! Any advice to get all the benefits from 4.1 are welcome!

Cheers!

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Develin 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 11-Sep-2015 4:05:04
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@tygre

If you use later betas of WinUAE which have PCI-bridge support you can enable GREX and use Realtek 8029 emulation, just a tip =)

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pavlor 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
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@tygre

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Any advice to get all the benefits from 4.1 are welcome!


With 3.2 beta, you can also use PCI sound card (SB128 driver is on OS4depot).

Some screen resolutions need to be created in Picasso96Mode - ScreenMode prefs editor or ToolTypes will not accept low resolutions (320x200) or higher ones (1680x1050-16 bit I use right now). However, higher resolution needs more Fast RAM and this is precious resource with only 128 MB.

DON´T install DiskImage device (eats 5+ MB Fast RAM)!

There are many internet browsers for OS4 - Odyssey is the best, but needs far more RAM than you have (SWAP doesn´t work reliably in WinUAE). NetSurf has download manager (but slooow), OWB supports javascript (but lacks download manager...) and IBrowse is the fastest (but only for viewing pre-year 2000 webpages ).

AmigaAmp is really nice audio player - however, V3 is muuuuch slower than V2 in WinUAE when playing MP3 (I think newer version is more optimised for FPU that is slow in WinUAE/QEMU).

I recommend AutoInfo commodity.


If you have any questions about WinUAE/OS4 usage, don´t be afraid to post them.

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tygre 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 16:48:24
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@pavlor

Hi there!

I have been playing with AmigaOS 4.1FE on WinUAE and it is great!

One thing though, is that, because I cannot use UAE drivers because of the PPC (is that correct?), I am limited in screen resolution to "Board 0: 1280x720 BGR24"... (There are higher resolutions but with lower depths.)

Is there a way to get a higher resolution, say 2048x1152 in 24 bits or more with WinUAE and AmigaOS 4.1FE?

Thanks!

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pavlor 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 17:15:43
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@tygre

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One thing though, is that, because I cannot use UAE drivers because of the PPC (is that correct?)


Correct.

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Is there a way to get a higher resolution, say 2048x1152 in 24 bits or more with WinUAE and AmigaOS 4.1FE?


4 MB GFX RAM is main limitation there.

Eg. I use 1680x1050 16 bit (must be created in Picasso96Mode) and this takes 1680x1080x16 bits of RAM = cca 3.5 MB.

Edit: Your desired resolution (2048x1152 24 bit) would need 6.75 MB GFX RAM. Such high resolution would work only in 8 bit with 4 MB GFX RAM.

Last edited by pavlor on 06-Oct-2015 at 05:18 PM.

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tygre 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 18:13:13
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@pavlor

Thanks for your quick answer!

Is there a way to remove the 4MB GFX RAM limitation in WinUAE? (I really have no knowledge of this so that may be a dumb question )

Cheers!

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OlafS25 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 18:15:45
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@tygre

Yes... by Hyperion

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pavlor 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 18:18:03
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@tygre

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Is there a way to remove the 4MB GFX RAM limitation in WinUAE? (I really have no knowledge of this so that may be a dumb question )


There are two ways:

1. UAEGFX support for PowerPC side of emulation.
2. Support for other hardware GFX card emulation (eg. Voodoo3).

All these tasks depend on Toni Willen and aren´t easy. So - at this day - the answer is no.

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pavlor 
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Posted on 6-Oct-2015 18:19:58
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@OlafS25

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Yes... by Hyperion


This time, Hyperion can´t do anything: there simply isn´t infrastructure for other than Cirrus Logic GFX cards on PowerPC side.

128 MB RAM barrier... that is another question.

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OlafS25 
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@pavlor

Toni will propably never do it... he did it because he wanted to proof he can do it. He did . Now why helping Hyperion to sell more licenses? He has other more interesting projects.

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OlafS25 
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@pavlor

oh ok then I mixed it

but nevertheless Toni will not do it I think

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pavlor 
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@OlafS25

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Toni will propably never do it...


He stated Voodoo3 support as long time goal, so never say never...

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He has other more interesting projects.


Like HDD support for KS1.0?

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tygre 
Re: OS4.1 on Winuae
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 20:58:54
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@pavlor and @OlafS25

Thanks for the information! I'll keep donating to Toni then, so maybe he will find in his heart to help us

What an amazing piece of code WinUAE is!!!

Cheers!

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