One thing is for sure, the A1 nemo/X1000 is not designed for AmigaOS. Its PPC and even have a 64 bit CPU with multiple cores beside this xmoses nonsense.


Do it have onboard graphics?

- Niks

That mean you have to install a PCI graphics card.

Me search Amd drivers like normal people http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

And can't find Amiga OS supported by Amd or nVidia for that matter?



What is the point with this crazy expensive thing people have probably paid for?

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Starting another flame war?


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is not designed for AmigaOS

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Its PPC

AmigaOS too.

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Do it have onboard graphics?

Why it should?

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And can't find Amiga OS supported by Amd or nVidia for that matter?

Can´t find Haiku, TOS, RiscOS drivers. Something must be wrong...

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What is the point with this crazy expensive thing people have probably paid for?

"That's the thing about faith... if you don't have it, you can't understand it and if you do, no explanation is necessary."

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Sounds like you do have faith.......... so give em Hell.

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pavlor wrote: Can´t find Haiku, TOS,

Even the Atari TOS guys had brains to know when to stop with honor, a brain which is obviously not normal to have around the incompetent Amiga NG guys.

@LimoU.Sin

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Even the Atari TOS guys had brains to know when to stop with honor, a brain which is obviously not normal to have around the incompetent Amiga NG guys.

Never heard about FireBee?

@pavlor

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Never heard about FireBee?

Yes it looks much better than so-called NG Amiga.

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Yes it looks much better than so-called NG Amiga.

Sometimes, I fail to see sense in your words.

@LimoU.Sin

So much hate! The X1000 runs AmigaOS and is a primary machine that AmigaOS is written to work on. Drivers for the hardware are written by the Amiga community/Hyperion with references from NVidia or AMD. This still gets the job done.

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BigD wrote: @LimoU.Sin So much hate! The X1000 runs AmigaOS and is a primary machine that AmigaOS is written to work on. Drivers for the hardware are written by the Amiga community/Hyperion with references from NVidia or AMD. This still gets the job done.

And how's that been working out?

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BigD wrote: @LimoU.Sin So much hate! The X1000 runs AmigaOS and is a primary machine that AmigaOS is written to work on. Drivers for the hardware are written by the Amiga community/Hyperion with references from NVidia or AMD. This still gets the job done.

Why do you interpret criticism as hate, why behave like a yes-man or marionette for those responsible?


The "Hyperion Amiga community" has done nothing but talk-talk-talk for many years now.


it's just a broken half-working system. Why sell something like that to the public before it's out of something similar as alpha stage. I can't understand it is legal.

@LimoU.Sin

Your criticism is full of fallse statements, that makes your post "irrelevant hate post". Secondary your point of integrated Graphics is ridiculous, most people don't want to have integrated craphics. You are wondering why amd is not supporting Amiga OS? funny, do you know, there is many operating systems what they doesn't support.

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A1 nemo/X1000 is not designed for AmigaOS

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it's just a broken half-working system

Latter you start personal attacs agains those who doesn't understant you..
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why behave like a yes-man or marionette for those responsible?

Very mature indeed :D

I have OS4 system, I'm very happy with it.

@utri007

But AmigaOS4 is unable to adopt more than a few percentages of that old x1000 system.



Without going into technical details

- Its an 64bit cpu, 64 bit has great benefits in today's society.

- The same with more than one core, the Amiga was famous for its multitasking and AmigaOS4 is not even capable of utilizing more than one core.

- And how about all the additional capabilities of modern video cards? OpenGl 4, hardware accelerated video playback, hardware accelerated flash, 4k etc?




I can't believe that crap cost more than ~ $3 when you can get a PC that does the job hundreds of times better for only ~ $300?

@LimoU.Sin

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Why do you interpret criticism as hate,

English is not my native language, are you sure you really know difference between "criticism" and "hate"?

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great benefits in today's society.

What benefits? Like universal healthcare and free tertiary education?

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pavlor wrote: @LimoU.Sin Quote: Why do you interpret criticism as hate, English is not my native language, are you sure you really know difference between "criticism" and "hate"?

One must endure a little criticism, and one can not sit there just like a nod doll.

@LimoU.Sin

Why Amiga OS on none Amiga Hardware?

Simple because It's better. What is Amiga hardware anyway if not a collection of chips mounted on a board, its not that special, anymore.

Even at the time there where hardware that reviled the Amiga design like the X68000, more music channels, better graphics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X68000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw_f_8FoQUo

More RAM, higher clock, more sound channels.
Luckily for Amiga and Atari, X68000 was not sold outside of Japan.

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>LimoU.Sin wrote:

>But AmigaOS4 is unable to adopt more than a few percentages of that old x1000 system.

Do not buy one.

>Without going into technical details

>- Its an 64bit cpu, 64 bit has great benefits in today's society.

Do not buy one.

>- The same with more than one core, the Amiga was famous for its multitasking and AmigaOS4 is not >even capable of utilizing more than one core.

Do not buy one.

>- And how about all the additional capabilities of modern video cards? OpenGl 4, hardware accelerated >video playback, hardware accelerated flash, 4k etc?

Do not buy one.

I can't believe that crap cost more than ~ $3 when you can get a PC that does the job hundreds of times better for only ~ $300?

GO BUY ONE!

All problems solved. Bye-bye.

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Do it have onboard graphics? - Niks

That a good thing, now people can decide if they won't a expensive top of the range graphic card, or cheap graphic card. And people can upgrade to better graphic card if they like.

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That mean you have to install a PCI graphics card.

No you can buy prebuilt system, you do not need to install the graphic card yourself, anyway it easy to install it.

Not PCI that's a old standard, now its PCIe.

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Me search Amd drivers like normal people http://support.amd.com/en-us/download And can't find Amiga OS supported by Amd or nVidia for that matter?

It be extremely expensive if AMD where to do it.

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Of course if you are able to make a soundcard/sound chip that are better then the best sound-cards manufactures, go ahead. If you can make better graphics chips then AMD or Nivida go ahead and do it.

But if you can't then way make something that is slower, more expensive. That’s what I feel about the this, every time talk about FPGA Amiga computers, they always end up under 200mhz, while there is improvements in some area, over the original AGA design, it won't to reveal the best graphics chips on the market. Sure it's possible to make something unique, but who is going to care? Demo coders won't to challenge them self on 1Mhz computer or 7Mhz Amiga500 type hardware. All you end up with something obscure.

Anyway it does not matter how good your hardware is, if no one use it, it does not matter if you have cool computer if there no software, no matter if its FPGA Amiga or computer that use off the shelf parts.

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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: @LimoU.Sin [quote]No you can buy prebuilt system

Prebuilt system options:
HD 5450 1gb http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/5000/5450#
HD r7 250x http://www.amd.com/en-gb/products/graphics/desktop/r7#


How about all the additional capabilities you are not able of utilize, not that OS4 has any software anyways but gawd you should be ashamed.....

@LimoU.Sin

great another troll, sigh

back to beating that dead horse