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Re: X5000
Posted on 24-Sep-2015 21:51:40
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@thread

June 12, 2015 Source

Anything more up to date would have to have been from Amiga30 EU or CA a/v.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 25-Sep-2015 3:39:00
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@Niolator

Roman definition:

Week 1 = Beginning of the month
Week 2 = Middle of the month
Rest of the month = End of the month

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Re: X5000
Posted on 25-Sep-2015 6:29:05
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Trevor in his blog said it would have been available in late september, so in the very last days of September imho.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 25-Sep-2015 7:23:58
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Ok, I hope that we'll get some news by then.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 25-Sep-2015 7:58:36
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According to A-eon's Facebook page the X5000 will be demonstrated at Amiga30.de, that is the 10th of october.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 25-Sep-2015 8:24:43
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redesigning electronics to save money is a bit of an oxymoron, yes. Moving a single resistor on a PCB will cost you thousands of euros (PCB itself + solder mask + pick and place reprogramming etc), imagine a complete redesign.

So it would actually seem that rather than fix bugs in current products, one should always scrap and redo from scratch. Haven't thought of this before I wonder if my boss would buy that thought.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 3:17:23
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@bennymee
Demonstrating and release for sale can be one and the same...
but I think the OP wants info on being able to buy and take home...

The working Cyrus board was demoed at AmiWest2014 and Amiga30 California.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 19:06:06
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Since the new A-eon boards have an Xmos chip on-board AFAIK, I wonder if they will be selling a useable protoboard for those people interested in developing something to use it for.

What they came up with for the Nemo board is complete crap.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 19:17:01
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@Signal

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What they came up with for the Nemo board is complete crap.

Is that your user experience or personal opinion?

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 20:55:53
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@sundown

So do you know some thing we don't? What products/resources are there to support the XMOS chip on AmigaOnes? Other than this bare bones board;

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1135

The question is has anyone actually populated one of these boards yet and to do what?

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 21:10:21
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You'd have to ask lylehaze or amigakit about whats available.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 21:19:55
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@BigD

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The question is has anyone actually populated one of these boards yet and to do what?


i would rather expect the people to buy them to frame them and nail them to the wall. likely it was meant that way to start with, so no problem.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 21:26:06
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@sundown

Quote:

sundown wrote:
@Signal

Quote:
What they came up with for the Nemo board is complete crap.

Is that your user experience or personal opinion?


User experience.

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BigD 
Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 21:28:52
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@wawa

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i would rather expect the people to buy them to frame them and nail them to the wall. likely it was meant that way to start with, so no problem.


I don't understand It's a rather expensive wall decoration. I'd rather have one of those unpopulated A4000T boards that you see on eBay every so often. Surely if you buy one you'd try and create something?

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 21:35:04
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@BigD

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BigD wrote:

The question is has anyone actually populated one of these boards yet and to do what?


These boards are not what would be considered a prototyping board by a hobbyist.
If you wish to put a 16 pin chip on this board you best be prepared to cut at least 16 traces that are under the coating. These are bus boards, not protoboards.

Also the pins from the Xorro slot were brought out over the PCIe x1 slot rendering it useless to communicate with Nemo for large data transfers. Which doesn't really matter since we have no PCIe cards that work with Nemo, BUT.... we do have games we can purchase.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 21:37:46
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@Signal

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User experience.

Thank you.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 22:56:18
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@BigD

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I don't understand it's a rather expensive wall decoration. I'd rather have one of those unpopulated A4000T boards that you see on eBay every so often. Surely if you by one you'd try and create something?

i really think these kind of things are simply collector items. in the end the target public likes or has been convinced to like expensive useless stuff.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 26-Sep-2015 23:46:48
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wawa wrote:

i really think these kind of things are simply collector items. in the end the target public likes or has been convinced to like expensive useless stuff.


Please do not use my words to forward your agenda.


I think this board was designed simply to demo and test the Xena/Xorro slot.

The mistake was selling it to me as a proto board. Had they used 2 ISA slots or a PCI slot for Xorro then proto boards are available for less than $20, but since nobody makes x8 proto boards, and the available x1 boards cost over $400 due to the necessary serdes interface it rather limits hobby status for Xena.

Why they did not come to the community before going into production,,,,,, I flat out do not understand.

I have a project in mind. I have purchased most of the components but nobody would ever go through with what needs to be done to bring this project to fruition on either Nemo or what ever comes next.

It all boils down to a proto board, hopefully with some type of interface into the PCIe x1 portion of the combined slot.

Well, after waiting, soon to be, three years for a PCIe serial port I have no reason to think that hardware is of any importance to our suppliers.

Enough bitching, errors have been made. Fix them.

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Re: X5000
Posted on 27-Sep-2015 11:54:07
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@ALL

REALLY interested to see some benchmarks done with an x5000 :D

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Re: X5000
Posted on 27-Sep-2015 14:49:26
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@Tuxedo

REALLY interested to see the price. If it's X1000 price and they really did a run of 500 boards then A-Eon wont be around for long.

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