@all

Now as far as I can tell all I need is a copy of AOS4.1 FE so got that ordered yesterday.

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Got my copy of AOS4.1 Classic but having no fun trying to get it to work with WinUAE3.1

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@1Mouse

Do you have all needed ROMs?

What WinUAE/OS4 installation guide you follow?

@pavlor

Following http://amigax1000.blogspot.cz/2014/08/amigaos41-classic-on-winuae-part-1.html

and have the CyberstormPPC room and Picasso IV rom

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@1Mouse

I had the same question and I was advised to follow this tutorial and it went like a charm!

Enjoy!

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@tygre

I have WinUAE 2.8.1, WinUAE 2.9 and WinUAE 3.1, they all seem to have slightly differing options when setting up, not helping

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@1Mouse

Use 3.1 and guide tygre linked. If anything doesn´t work, post your problem here and we will try to find answer.

@pavlor

I've used WinUAE 3.1 and everything went well until reboot.

I get an error message in a Windows requester "Direct3D: Optional DirectX9 components are not installed" but I can click ok on this and then:...

I get a grey/blank workbench screen with a requester saying "Not a DOS disk in Device DH0"

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@1Mouse

First, you emulate CyberStormPPC, right?

Second, you use accellerator SCSI for boot disk, right?

@pavlor

The accelerator board rom file is CyberstormPPC (128k)

Both the HDF and CD are SCSI.

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@1Mouse

Is HDD partition set in MediaToolBox as bootable?

What filesystem you use? If it is SFS, did you install it into partition? Did you type correct filesystem value in the text field (it is not set correctly eg. for SFS by default).

@1Mouse

Where did you get the two roms from?

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@cdimauro

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You need to disassembly nothing. My idea is to seek just for the data which comes from Zorro or PCI dump.

Well yes you could do it inside emulation. In fact one could possibly write a Kickstart module to do it. I thought it would be easier just to modify the rom file.

But I think just searching for values is too simple. It may not be that direct internally. Thus why I suggested to disassemble it in order to ascertain the spot where it adds memory to the system.

Also, does UAE have a rom debugger? Be good if code could be halted and single stepped live but all would be needed is any calls to update Exec memory or into Expansion.

The other main problem is telling UAE to allocate up to 2GB for this extra memory. If the emulation only has 128MB it will be no use trying to use more and bringing the host system, down!

@Hypex

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Hypex wrote: @cdimauro Quote: You need to disassembly nothing. My idea is to seek just for the data which comes from Zorro or PCI dump. Well yes you could do it inside emulation. In fact one could possibly write a Kickstart module to do it. I thought it would be easier just to modify the rom file.

That was my proposal: just change the ROM file. But first you need to find what part to change, and for this you have to write a little application which gives you the raw data of attached Zorro (probably) or PCI expansion cards.
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But I think just searching for values is too simple. It may not be that direct internally.

It's just a tentative which have a little cost.
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Thus why I suggested to disassemble it in order to ascertain the spot where it adds memory to the system.

This way you'll find it for sure, we know. But it costs much more.
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Also, does UAE have a rom debugger? Be good if code could be halted and single stepped live but all would be needed is any calls to update Exec memory or into Expansion.

Of course, but I don't know if it works with PowerPC code.
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The other main problem is telling UAE to allocate up to 2GB for this extra memory. If the emulation only has 128MB it will be no use trying to use more and bringing the host system, down!

That's the easiest part, because you have the full source for WinUAE.

BTW, you can allocate only up to 1.5GB of Z3 memory. I think it's enough.

@cdimauro

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That was my proposal: just change the ROM file. But first you need to find what part to change, and for this you have to write a little application which gives you the raw data

After looking at the UAE ROM file it is readable in a Kickstart format. Not exactly loadable into a debugger but AFAIK MonAm could load raw files.

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Of course, but I don't know if it works with PowerPC code.

I think the 68K part should be enough. It's the first part that gets run to set up the card. Plus I have some evidence that PPC doesn't get called until a program runs on it. On my PPC Macs qemu-uae has never worked and only crashes if I try to run PPC code.

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That's the easiest part, because you have the full source for WinUAE.

I didn't want to go that deep, just the UAE debugger should be good enough.

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BTW, you can allocate only up to 1.5GB of Z3 memory. I think it's enough.

That would be. Just needs to be merged with the CyberRAM.

@Hypex: only "CyberRAM" is needed. I wanted only to point out that the available address space for Z3 RAM is 1.5GB, and it might be used to map "CyberRAM" instead.

@AmigaBlitter

I installed WinUAE and OS4 F.E. on a high end gaming laptop and so far my findings are:

The Cyberstorm emulation works best, but with 65MB or so left once WB is loaded, it doesn't leave much headroom for memory hungry tasks like compiling and gfx or audio editing.

The Blizzard emulation provides around 180MB of free RAM after WB which would make it more usable, but the speed is pretty awful, disk I/O through the IDE emulation is very slow.

Now if there's a way to emulate the zorram or use the swap partition I'd really like to know how!

The Picasso4 emulation limits the resolution but it works well enough as the OS uses main RAM when the 4mb run out.

Overall it does provide a working OS4 laptop that runs fast enough with the CSPPC emulation, and maybe could run a lot faster if using separate threads for emulating a gfx card and other CPU intensive parts as right now it's only using one core out of 8.

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I think that if Hyperion fires up a patch for the memory and a proper video driver... they could sell Licences in order of thousands.

I don't think they could even if they wanted to, because the Amiga agreement only covers PPC hardware. At best they can provide support for what exists in hardware form, but adding support for emulation-only features could be considered to fall outside the scope of the agreement.

Last edited by AlexC on 21-Nov-2015 at 08:41 AM.

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@AlexC: PowerPC emulation runs on another thread, so in a multicore processor it'll use another core (whereas the other one runs 68K & chipset emulation, included RTG AFAIK).

@cdimauro

Indeed, but in the context of OS4 only the PPC emulation is running full steam.

The other thread is nearly idle as the 68k "CPU" is stopped, so if that same thread also handles RTG and chipset emulation, it only uses a small fraction of the CPU cycles available on that core.

Emulating a 3D video card could make good use of a core and allow using Warp3D/MiniGL, I doubt the ATI R100/200 chipsets are simple enough to emulate so the Voodoo card might be our best bet at this point.

I'm not sure what else could be split up to take advantage of a multi-core host, but as it is now the upside is that it's possible to run multiple instances of WinUAE at full speed in parallel

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I was unable to set it up so have gone back to my MorphOS Powerbook for my mobile Amiga programming.

I may try again later but for now it's a no go

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