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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 8-Nov-2015 11:50:45
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Because Hyperion would not want to participate.


Why?

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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Politics.

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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Politics.


Of course, they are EVIL!

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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WarpOS was really popular due to Extended Hunk Format, that allowed WarpOS programs to be started as if they where normal programs, with PowerUP you needed to use loadseg or some command like that to start PowerPC programs, WarpOS was popular at the time, because it was easy to use. so program started to come with name "Warp" in it, WarpDT, Warp3D, and so on.

At the time, Hyperion was focusing on making games. Hagge&Partner was going to make AmigaOS3.5 and AmigaOS3.9.

After the fall out between Hagge&Partner and Amiga Inc,
Then Hyperion Entertainment came into the picture.

http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/warpos

WarpOS support I believe was part of AmigaOS4.0 update X, but later became a 3rd party add-on, made by a someone that call them self "Guru Meditation". WarpOS support only work on G3/G4 type of CPU's.

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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Hagge&Partner was going to make AmigaOS3.5 and AmigaOS3.9.


Hagge&Partner were among original parties for OS4 developement as OS4 should be based on their kernel.

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WarpOS support I believe was part of AmigaOS4.0 update X,


4.0 pre-release Update 3 (14 June 2005).

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but later became a 3rd party add-on


I thing it was work of Joerg.

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WarpOS support only work on G3/G4 type of CPU's.


And 603e/604e (and probably also 440EP). WarpOS support is still included in 4.1FE (at least Classic version).

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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PowerUp used ELF file firmat that required patching dos.library/InternalLoadSeg(). IIRC this patch was built un to BPPC accelerators.

WarpUp just extended Amiga Hunk firmat that didnt require patching. Downside is that development tools dont support it out of the box. GCC toolchain only knows ELF.

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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But there was Storm C++.

I do not know somehow GCC felt clumsy on Classic Amiga, at least when tried to get Antique to learn C, we ended up with VBCC.


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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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Storm C up to version 3 was made in house. It was easy to use but poor optimizer.

GCC was always the best but there was no IDE.

StormC 4 switched to GCC but never had it.

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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WarpOS support I believe was part of AmigaOS4.0 update X, but later became a 3rd party add-on, made by a someone that call them self "Guru Meditation". WarpOS support only work on G3/G4 type of CPU's.


That is correct.

The Guru Meditation team in cooperation with Joerg Strohmayer

And Guru Meditation was also @reflect on AW and working with both Hyperion and Eyetech communication, part of Troika, etc. etc.

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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We have now 20 sep 2017, 20 years ago 20 sep 1997 first powerpc cards to amiga were sold to happy customers.

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Ah yes, the start of the good old red-blue war, WarPUP and WarPOS :)

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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ppcamiga1 wrote:
We have now 20 sep 2017, 20 years ago 20 sep 1997 first powerpc cards to amiga were sold to happy customers.


My CSPPC(060+604e) arrived my humble student apartment in November 1997, I still have the receipt somewhere. And the board still works, running OS3.9, OS4.1FE and MorphOS 1.4.2 :)

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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We have now 20 sep 2017, 20 years ago 20 sep 1997 first powerpc cards to amiga were sold to happy customers.



Man, that was a thing. I took me a year for getting my ppc board (waited for the BlizzardPPC, took a bit), but that was quite a step: vanilla A1200 -> 040/25 + 603/200 + SCSI + 64 MB RAM. A fat smile embossed in my face that lasted quite a while (albeit the usability of the ppc was less than expected and took until the MorphOS 0.4 realease to get really utilized and until the 1.4.x release to set free the full potential).


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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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Is this a reasonable time for waiting the ppc programs to arrive?

I like to go to internet. My 7 year old daughter got a phone that can do amazing stuff!


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7Years old is too young for such a device. Sit her in front of a Classic Amiga...

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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Agreed, do we really want a 7 year old to be able to use eBay, FaceBook and hack NASA on a smart phone but not be able to draw a picture on Deluxe Paint or use a joystick?

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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Ah yes, I was one of those people. I bought the BlizzardPPC + BVision. For me it was an upgrade from an 040 accelerator. I also ordered a tower mod for my A1200. Finally I was going to have an RTG card, to use better monitors with higher resolutions and more colours. There was so much potential back then.

I was already running MacOS 8 in Shapeshifter and was looking forward to one day running MacOS in a PowerPC enabled emulator. I liked the idea of 2 computers in 1.

I never did run a PPC emulator for MacOS, but I did end up running Debian on it. In like 2000. So for the most part, the 603e CPU wasn't doing much. But I did enjoy the 060 with the BVision. And the integrated SCSI II. I had a HDD and CD Burner on it.

It was interesting that they had one SIMM slot on the main accelerator board, and another on the BVision board. Hey, if the accelerator is a daughter card, does that make the BVision a granddaughter card?

See, Blizzard should have done more 68k accelerators with RTG for A1200s.

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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Phase 5 did everything they could to keep the Amiga relevent. Beyond the Cyberstorm Mk1 it was a losing battle however. Their dual chip accelerators were ingenius but expensive and under utilised. Anyone still use Candy Factory?

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 22-Sep-2017 20:01:53
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Done that an it is amazing how fast gets the grips.

So there that too Young. Must be security for school and learning here in the Nokialand.

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 22-Sep-2017 20:06:02
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Tac-2 seems to sit on our Amigagirls hands.

Now our 5 years old Amigaprinses is wondering to get a smartphone..

Can be earned when going to school.

These girls really get it with DPIV and make better drawings than PR and kick my ass in IK+ etc.

How Funny is that?

Happy Weekend.

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