@Kolla
HAM10 would be cooler ;)
There were also some special mixed planar/chunky modes that were interesting.

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Hammer wrote: @iggy Modern X86 CPUs includes RISC cores (fix instruction length) and hardware accelerated X86 (variable instruction length) translators.

But the "RISC core" is very different from a traditional RISC CPU.
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Being RISC doesn't automatically equal good i.e. it depends on the implementation. From http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1788668&postcount=693

Unfortunately the B3D's forum seems to be changed, and the link is broken. Can you provide a new one to this thread? Thanks.
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@cdimauro Quote: cdimauro wrote: Apple's A7/8/9 have 6-issues cores. nVidia's Project Denver (that you find in some Tegra's SoCs) have 7-issues cores. One can't directly compare complex instruction set to reduce instruction set. Higher code density (CISC) uses less instruction issue slots than less code density (RISC).

I know it. I only reported the status of the art for ARM processors.


@kolla

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kolla wrote: @cdimauro Quote: cdimauro wrote: @kolla: actually it seems to be RTG/Picasso96 only. Which makes sense, since there's already a lot of support for RTG graphic cards for the Amiga o.s.. Then it makes zero sense to confuse people by calling it "Super AGA", when it really is just a framebuffer for P96.

I agree: it's a totally different thing.
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"Super AGA" would be providing AGA compatibility, and beyond. Super AGA would be allowing super fast high resolution HAM8 modes, for Deluxe Paint for example.

It can be made, of course, but it requires time to have an AGA chipset implementation. Two more weeks...

Isn't it much better to use Personal Paint with RTG/Picasso96?


@Jose

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Jose wrote: @Kolla HAM10 would be cooler ;) There were also some special mixed planar/chunky modes that were interesting.

Not interesting: insanely weird.

We have 32-bit RGBA graphics for around 25 years: please, use them!

@Overflow

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Is Diablo 1 available for this emulator?

No. As far as I know, there is only PowerPC version.

However, some people were able to run Diablo under FPSE (Playstation emulator), but this needs far more CPU power than Vampire/Apollo and PSX version is not the best.

@cdimauro

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Isn't it much better to use Personal Paint with RTG/Picasso96?

Of course. However, I must admit there are features I like on DPaint, but TvPaint has most of them (its tools are highly inspired by DPaint).

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Not interesting: insanely weird.

Perfect match for world of Amiga.

@pavlor: does TvPaint works with RTG?

@cdimauro

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does TvPaint works with RTG?

TvPaint supports RTG only, it doesn´t even work on OCS/ECS/AGA.

@pavlor: nice to know. If it's also free, Personal Paint and TVPaint can become a good replacement for Deluxe Paint, for RTG systems.

@cdimauro

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If it's also free

It is.

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Personal Paint and TVPaint can become a good replacement for Deluxe Paint, for RTG systems.

That is exactly what I use.

@zErec

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zErec wrote: @kolla we will see that "SuperAGA" will deserve its name.

Well, if there is a development of a better Amiga custom chips reimplementation it should be called "MAGA" better than "SuperAGA"
Why?
Because:
1-AGA means Advanced Graphic Architecture so MAGA would mean More Advanced Graphic Architecture
2-MAGA means female magician in spanish

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@thread

https://vimeo.com/152027985

Already posted?

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Or what about :

GALAPAGOS

"G"raphics"A"ccelerator"L"eaps"A"head"P"revious"A"ccelerated"G"raphics"O"n"S"ilicon
"G"raphics"A"ccelerator"L"eaps"A"head"P"revious"A"miga"G"raphics"O"n"S"teroids


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Fransexy wrote: @zErec Quote: zErec wrote: @kolla we will see that "SuperAGA" will deserve its name. Well, if there is a development of a better Amiga custom chips reimplementation it should be called "MAGA" better than "SuperAGA" Why? Because: 1-AGA means Advanced Graphic Architecture so MAGA would mean More Advanced Graphic Architecture 2-MAGA means female magician in spanish

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What about RAGA (RayTracing AGA)

@team
WOuld be possible to implement such core in the future?

http://www.siliconarts.com/

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@cdimauro

No, PPaint is a poor substitute if you want to animate. Anyways it was merely an example, there are loads of productivity software (and games) that would benefit from compable, yet improved (faster, more RAM, larger resolutions, flickerfree) AGA.

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It looks like it should now be possible to see a full demonstration of OS3.9 on Vampire2, including opening and using various Reaction and OS3.9 resource.library dependant prefs programs etc. At long last. I hope.

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@OlafS25

thanks for that link. I had lost that board during a windows migration.

@cdimauro

Here's the new Beyond3D forum post.

@kolla

Am I missing something??? Wouldn't larger screen resolutions require the applications to be re-coded to be taken advantage of, anyway?

@Pleng

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Pleng wrote: @kolla Am I missing something??? Wouldn't larger screen resolutions require the applications to be re-coded to be taken advantage of, anyway?

Not really, no, applications that supports AGA already supports large screen sizes, you can edit images in 1920x1080 already if you don't mind scrolling, or even 1344x576 (if I recall correctly) without scrolling, using super hires PAL interlaced mode. Applications will typically use the modes available, with the features they offer. Typically it is the ammount of chipram that is the problem, but that is an OS issue and typocally not an application issue.

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@cdimauro

For shader workloads...

PS4's 6 CPU cores at 1.6 Ghz scored 98.
PS3's 5 SPE cores at 3.2 Ghz scored 105.



Both MS and Sony later unlocked the 7th CPU core for game developers.

AMD Jaguar's effective IPC is higher than PS3's CELL or Xbox 360's PPE X3.

The slide was from http://twvideo01.ubm-us.net/o1/vault/gdceurope2014/Presentations/828884_Alexis_Vaisse.pdf



Too bad Motorola didn't continue 68K into Intel Haswell type hybrid CISC/RISC design.


Also, AMD Jaguar has 256bit Intel AVX SIMD instructions which reduce an instruction issue slot when compared with two 128bit SIMD instruction issue slot.


AMD Radeon HD 7790/R7-260X/R9-285X/R9-380X/R9-290X/R9-390X/R9-Fury X comes with AMD's TrueAudio DSP which is similar Xbox One's SHAPE DSP i.e. that's another DSP that can used for the Amiga.

Xbox One's SHAPE DSP = Four Tensilica DSP cores.
AMD TrueAudio DSP = Three Tensilica DSP cores.

Apparently, PS4 also has AMD's TrueAudio DSP.


Both Xbox One's SHAPE and AMD's TrueAudio DSP are based from Cadence Tensilica HiFi DSP.

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