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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 3-Aug-2016 15:27:23
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So I was requested to make a recording of CNCDs Killer demo by someone that was curious about how fast the vampire could deal with this demo vs the old stock 060 hardware etc.

My Core 7 Vampire clocks in at 110 mips.

Anyhow, as shitty as the iphone 4s recording is; figure Ill just link it here too;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpUVOZcnM38&feature=youtu.be

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 3-Aug-2016 22:48:41
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http://www.apollo-accelerators.com/#download

Silver 9 Core released.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 9-Aug-2016 10:53:29
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So a intresting comment on IRC;

BigGun> Pure first standalones will come out before xmas
rwo> BigGun, wow that is great news.. I hope you put a Serial port on it for debug output
Lizard> note that BigGun didn't say WHICH xmas ;)
BigGun> lol... i mean in 3month

Very small increase in price compared to the A600/500 dependent board to accomodate for extra parts, powerplug and a case.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 9-Aug-2016 12:13:10
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@Overflow

lol

I did expect V1200 to come out before x-mas or around that time.

WOW! standalone is extremely wanted and I will buy one when it is ready but guess it will take longer then 3 months.

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Posted on 9-Aug-2016 12:27:15
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@Overflow

interesting...

one critical issue about standalone is driver support. That was one reason why Gunnar officially supported Aros because everything open and all sort of components available (Poseidon for USB, Network-Stack, RTG and so on). We will see

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 10-Aug-2016 16:31:44
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@OlafS25

from amiga.org

"Hi All, two Saturdays ago I was in Las Vegas at the CommVEX 2016 show and spoke with Jim Drew, he of Fusion Mac and SuperCopy software. He showed off an A2000 running a Vampire board at 234 mhz. He is the North American Rep for Apollo and said the Vampire A1200 would be released around Christmas time. Brad Hansen"

234 Mhz?

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 10-Aug-2016 16:44:47
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@OlafS25

234 mhz is what "whichamiga" program by Harry Sintonen says about the CPU.

https://vimeo.com/177684953

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@OlafS25

Having the Apollo Dev. Team connected to Jim Drew is the only thing I worry about, with their products and sales in North America. Jim Drew has earned the distrust of many Amiga users, from his past actions (IMO), so I am sad to see him involved with any of the Apollo team members, or their products.

I hope he will not be the only source to purchase Apollo products from in North America, and users here can still purchase Apollo products from other, more trust worthy people, like kipper2k.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 12-Aug-2016 13:08:44
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I've heard something about a stand alone version of the Vampire. Where can I found information about it?

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 12-Aug-2016 13:21:32
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@Yasu

Initially there will be a standalone Vampire which has similar specs as the v600, with the addition of a few bits and pieces to attach keyboard, mouse etc.
BigGun indicated that a standalone vampire should be up and running within 3 months or so.
Wether or not that is for developers/testers or for public ordering, I dont know.

Kipper2k also asked the question about future developments with higher specs beyond the inital Vampires we see today;

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=82398&highlight=kipper2k

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 12-Aug-2016 13:39:14
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i wouldnt get too excited about the standalone just yet. its a consequent development, but the team is well advised doing step by step, satisfying demand and while that gaining experience for the future designs. standalone could and should be the postponed after all possible pitfalls and features have been explored, so to say as the preliminary crowning of the project. after that you might think of going asic;)

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Posted on 13-Aug-2016 4:31:44
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A proper Standalone should have at least 1 each serial and parallel port. I don't think they even worried about that yet.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 13-Aug-2016 21:48:05
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@QuikSanz

Quote:

QuikSanz wrote:
A proper Standalone should have at least 1 each serial and parallel port. I don't think they even worried about that yet.



Yeah, with the Apollo core not being GPL, they cannot use existing Minimig implementations and need to write _everything_ from scratch themselves.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 14-Aug-2016 18:33:20
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@QuikSanz
At least 1 each? Why would you possibly have more than 1 each of those ancient legacy ports on a "modern" motherboard? The case for having either a serial port or parallel port is arguable and if the Apollo/Vampire team decide to include them implementation should be well within their capabilities, they are trivial in comparison to what they have achieved already.

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Posted on 14-Aug-2016 19:44:31
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@IanP,

"@QuikSanz
At least 1 each? Why would you possibly have more than 1 each of those ancient legacy ports on a "modern" motherboard? The case for having either a serial port or parallel port is arguable and if the Apollo/Vampire team decide to include them implementation should be well within their capabilities, they are trivial in comparison to what they have achieved already."

So you have network printing working great on your 68K machine? or perhaps wifi?
I'll stick with my HP895c, works perfect with Turboprint. Serial debugging is a nice thing to have also.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 14-Aug-2016 21:13:23
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A high speed capable serial interface is very useful for all kinds of stuff.

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Posted on 14-Aug-2016 21:36:57
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Parallell? No.

Serial? Yes, a header on the board for connecting a cable to is nice. But not a DB9 port directly on the board.

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Posted on 14-Aug-2016 21:59:48
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@duga if you're going to the trouble of including the line driver/receiver IC on the board you may as well populate a DB9 too if you have a place for connector on the form factor, or are you suggesting 3v3 (or whatever level the FPGA is using for IO) signalling on the header?

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 14-Aug-2016 22:41:21
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@duga

I agree, just rx/tx headers, as I would connect directly to a Raspberry Pi Zero, like I have with my MIST.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 15-Aug-2016 1:17:53
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@duga,

If you don't want to include Ser/Par port fine, give me a Zorro slot on that stand alone unit.

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