@cgutjahr

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But let's just leave it at that. I don't want to be the guy telling Amiga users their hardware sucks.

Its my understanding that you had a relationship with Hyperion that went bad, so I give you the right to personally bash them, for what ever reason. That does not give you the right to bash a-eon or Trevor who have done you no harm. Your fud about the a-eon h/w only makes you look stupid, be smart & stick to Hyp bashing only in future posts.

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@cgutjahr

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But let's just leave it at that. I don't want to be the guy telling Amiga users their hardware sucks. Even if it does

to be fair, as an amiga user i dont remember you telling me my amigas suck, but its never too late to start.

@sundown

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That does not give you the right to bash a-eon or Trevor who have done you no harm. Your fud about the a-eon h/w only makes you look stupid, be smart & stick to Hyp bashing only in future posts.

Please... the sycophants are lining up to chastise this guy and many members of the community feel that his criticisms are warranted.

There are quite a few old boy's club Amiga vanguards that rush out here every time someone says anything negative. The retort is always the same:

1. We're happy with the state of the Amiga
2. We buy products that support the cause
3. You're trolling
4. You have an agenda
5. What have you done to make the situation better?

Conveniently chose from any of the above, we know them all by heart.

In the end, you're either cast in #1 or #2 or you're flogged.

Let's not forget: we're all here for the same reason and we don't all agree at the best of times. But right now, it's not a question of whether or not the right things are happening, it's that nothing is happening.

@ne_one

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it's that nothing is happening

Uh Oh, good point.

AND on topic.

+1

@ne_one

seriously? the point here is that the issue is with Hyperion not doing anything recently in terms of updates with existing hardware with regards to known issues.

Some people here choose to conveniently confuse A-Eon with Hyperion. Does anyone seriously believe that A-Eon would be very happy with the slow progress on the driver & software side???

defaming a hardware manufacturer in this thread is uncalled for period.

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@ne_one

You forgot one for guys like you.

6. Butting into a conversation you have no clue what the conversation is all about.

Here is a thread thats right up your alley, none of us were smart enough to solve the mystery, but I'm sure you are. Be a pal & help us out.

@wawa, be a pal & help him out...

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=17103&forum=4

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@sundown

+1 haha

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@noXLar

You're all ganging up on the poor guy, but the white poo thread IS hilarious.
AND thought provoking (in a weird way)1

@sundown

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@wawa, be a pal & help him out...

not a slightest idea what you are talking about, neither curious to discover, but apparently you are familiar with the subject you are pointing him to, so why wont you help him yourself?

@wawa

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not a slightest idea what you are talking about

Of course not, this thread derailed days ago.

You know, bird poo is white because birds don't excrete ammonia as liquid urea.

@sundown and klx300r

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no, i just like that tread he found

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@sundown

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ts my understanding that you had a relationship with Hyperion that went bad,

Please tell me who it is that has a good experience with them?

@realize

Well, Ben did out shyster Bill.
I kind of enjoyed that, although I knew we wouldn't really benefit.

So maybe if you are into ironic comedy?

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@Cheese

ah of course one of the minions arrives, still using one of my quotes without copyright permission eh so what part of my post 305 do you have an issue with exactly?

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@sundown

Right... read the thread titles much?

Sorry, pulling the shell game doesn't change the sanctimonious BS that people have been plying in this community forever.

If you don't like what you hear you just deflect instead of admitting the obvious.

@klx300r

The responsibility for any product lies with the company that develops, sells and supports it.

If A-EON doesn't believe that Hyperion is fulfilling its obligations and is compromising their "high-end, prestige" platform then they should either be taking action against Hyperion or distancing themselves from the branding. It's called an Amiga, it's promoted as an AmigaOS solution and the merchantability of this package resides with A-EON.

Some people are saying that the product isn't living up to its expectations and continuing to sell it is a misrepresentation of its stated abilities. If these claims are incorrect, they should be simple enough to dismiss. If they are slanderous, then they can be pursued. If they are real, they need to be addressed.

This isn't just about one jaded person making false claims. It's about many people saying things don't look good.

@iggy

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iggy wrote: @realize Well, Ben did out shyster Bill. I kind of enjoyed that, although I knew we wouldn't really benefit. So maybe if you are into ironic comedy?

I think a lot of Amiga users thought that Hyperion winning the right to continue development of AmigaOS4.x was a good thing, when it first happened. How many of those same users still believe that Hyperion is doing a better job than Amiga Inc. "might" have done in an alternative reality where Hyperion didn't win anything, but was forced to turn over what they had been contracted to deliver. Even though Amiga Inc. never really produced anything worthwhile, I don't see how they could do worse than Hyperion is currently doing to develop AmigaOS4.x.

I don't think I am the only user who believes that Hyperion intentionally delayed the release of the first public version of AmigaOS4.x, and meant to take the rights to AmigaOS4.x away from Amiga Inc. from the very beginning when their contract was created with specific wording (which Bill McEwen was too ignorant to realize).

@ne_one

only A-Eon knows what their contractural obligation is with Hyperion but again I fail to see how a thread about Hyperion software updates turns into a slander fest on a hardware manufacturer?

I wonder if such a flame fest would happen against a hardware manufacturer on s a software related thread if it was a MorphOS lack of updates on Sam460's or X5k's?

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@klx300r

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only A-Eon knows what their contractural obligation is with Hyperion but again I fail to see how a thread about Hyperion software updates turns into a slander fest on a hardware manufacturer?

whomever you associate yourself with, it will stain yourself. besides since apart of hardware, other projects also seem to carry similar stygma, just to mention amistore and its content, buyoff of old amiga software with usually no result worth mention, software projects that have been apparently invested in, like open- and then libreoffice, the warp3d for radeon hd that had to be assigned twice. not to forget moderately ambicious, but failed amiga hardware projects, like prisma megamix..

morphos on the other side is not offically supported, so whether they consider worthy to support particular hardware or not, would not likely affect them much, there seems to be enough choice. at least i dont see morphos users complaining about updates, but i see os4 supporters do that finally.