@tlosm

Just a small curiosity... Can you please tell how long does it take to boot (cold) from a SSD in X5000 those Linux distros you have been testing? Can the X5000 be set to boot Linux by default, so that you do not need to go through the boot menu?

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@Gregor

Yes it can boot by default from a menù

booting with quiet splash not more than 7/10 seconds from my ssd samsung 840

note: boot time is relative to what service you have installed on distro in my case i have libvirt and many other virtio modules intalled and loaded during booting.
boot time is relative to lan dhcp too.

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@tlosm

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how much Os you can count there?

Strictly speaking, one, Linux (with several others under a variety of emulations).

Neat though.

And, as to DOSbox, while it represents a single thread, Linux is free to run other processes on the other core or as separate threads.

Therefore, a test comparing a G5 running Linux would be a better comparison (to your X5000) than an G5 running MorphOS.

But...I am really interested in seeing how this plays out when the P5040 based X5000 is compared to a Quad 2.5 PCIe G5.
The e5500 core may have an integer advantage, the G5 has a better FPU and it has AltiVec.

And...regardless, each would be dramatically better than a Tabor based system.

@iggy

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the G5 has a better FPU and it has AltiVec.

for sure have better fpu and altivec... but in my personal experiences and comparing something here and there:
FPU on linux ppc dont run like run on os4 and morphos too advantage in fpu operations in quake software rendering is about 10% less than my quad in single core.
Altivec ? for my experience on quad the avantage on it i see only on 2d gfx programs.

for now i can say for sure the X5000 is the fastest ng made and with 5040 will gave a great user experience.
If linux ppc and the others OS will start use gpu acclerations (all) VDPAU , and some one will made the jit css nothing will make you cry for a pc performances.

Now GPUs cover the altivec and fpu without problems but what is really need is the full support of it.

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for now i can say for sure the X5000 is the fastest ng made and with 5040 will gave a great user experience.

for sure, here you are definitely right

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If linux ppc and the others OS will start use gpu acclerations (all) VDPAU , and some one will made the jit css nothing will make you cry for a pc performances.

here you confirm your lack of knowledge of x86 hardware and their performances.

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@Seiya

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here you confirm your lack of knowledge of x86 hardware and their performances.

For sure if i dint have a I7 macbook pro and was working with a Xeon 24 core machine you was right

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@tlosm
you're so addicted to powerpc do not see anything else

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But you don't get it, other operating system are not "starting" to use VDPAU, they have in fact been using VDPAU for many years now, including the vector extensions and including all the stuff.

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VDPAU are not working right on LinuxPPC . i dont know if is an issue of my GPU the 6570 because bad supported or an r600 driver problem. I had been buy a 7770 core will check if there something will go better.
For sure on my personal experience the best supported video board on linux ppc is the 4650.

in any way right now im just doing this for the x86 lovers

Yes Right Now

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@tlosm

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if i dint have a I7 macbook pro and was working with a Xeon 24 core machine you was right

I know that feeling, I have one eight core AMD based system ans another with dual four core Xeons.

But I do like PPCs and the fact that there is an e6500 cored cpu that supports 24 threads is kind of neat although no where near as fast as X64).

@Seiya

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Quote: for now i can say for sure the X5000 is the fastest ng made and with 5040 will gave a great user experience.

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for sure, here you are definitely right

I just don't see that in the benchmarks.
Some level of parity, with each system having its strong point.

The clear advantage of the X5000 is that all its supported video cards will support open-firmware prompts (and the later revision of its PCI-e slots).

@iggy

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But I do like PPCs and the fact that there is an e6500 cored cpu that supports 24 threads is kind of neat although no where near as fast as X64).

the prize is quite not really hi for the e6500 24 T
in any way have a monster like it at home is more than good for go browsing, make fast video rendering and play games . For hi level workstations there is the power8 or the new boy coming Power10

immagine the video that i make with x 12 the same things
or X2 with 5040

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@iggy
in OS4 side there are few softwares and x1000 power is more enough to cover all needs.

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can you explain this difference with DOSBox?
now try qemu on X5000 and Linux to see if you have the same performance of G5

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VirtualPC is not Dosbox
Softwindows is not DosBox
and Dosbox is not qemu


too difficult to understand?

about qemu #post

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@Seiya

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x1000 power is more enough to cover all needs

Did I say anything negative about the PA6T cpu?

For that matter, I have been following the e5500 cored cpus since their announcement.
Not a bad processor, it would be nice if it had AltiVec.

The e6500 core does feature AltiVec and SMT, but with a 400 MHz slower clock, it doesn't offer much advantage without SMP support (for Amiga OS').

Power8 IS nice, but so far no one has introduced a desktop board using this cpu, and the only board proposed has gone from a projected $3000 to $3700.

@seya

Qemu and quake ... on Quad and on X5000
and belive me if i sey the x5000 run at half of speed

note: the quad have my best build wtth altivec and use sdl with the full accelerations of osx . this is the reason of the yellow color

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@tlosm

ok
when you can count of full speed of x5000 retry these test

report benchmark of hardfinfo to compare with recent test of X1000

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@Seiya

just beat the quad on qemu





if my calcs are right when all will run as it have on X5000 the timedemo will be near 20fps

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fly more than before

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