@cgutjahr

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t was the first (and last) bounty

After that there were two bounty's for mplayer.

First bounty AltiVec optimizing (on G5 Mac), (sadly wrong avcodec/ffmeg was updated.)
2en bounty integrated optimized part first bounty, and fix some bugs and add some features.

So no it was not the last, I'm sure it's not going to be the last.
But it's hard to collect enough money to make it worthwhile.

Many of the bounties are sadly unrealistic, the amount of work is also typical underestimated, the skill of the developer and dependency's additional libraries things that also need upgraded and ported.

Too high expectations is another problem.
Scare developers away.

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After that there were two bounty's for mplayer.

Right - I was focusing on Amigabounty projects, so I forgot about yours, sorry.

But I only remember the announcements, did they ever go anywhere? No sure what are saying.

@cgutjahr

Well, Yes i found newer FFMPEG, and sort of made it happen, can be downloaded from here.

http://database-org.com/index.php?page=recent

Source code is on GIT hub if anyone asks.

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@cgutjahr

There was two bounties. I collected money at bounty scource and paid then the Developers. Every developer got the money for the hard work.

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@Dandy

Nice analogy. I see your point. I have to say I too still use machines that are too old for normal modern speed use. A1-XE. PowerBook 1.5Ghz. Etc.

@Xenic

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It's stable and fast but a little outdated. The version date is 2008 and 8 years is a lifetime in Internet terms.

An interesting note that I only discovered recently. AmiPDF is open source and available to download for all registered users. So if any AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition developer is interested in updating it they can simply log into the Hyperion site, download the source, and update away.

@Hypex

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AmiPDF is open source and available to download for all registered users.

Oh? Can you tell us what license is used? I am a registered customer, but only for 4.0 - and due to technical problems I can't even see downloads that should be available to 4.0 customers.

@cgutjahr

GPL Version 2

You need to be registered AmigaOS4.1 user to get access to sources Hyperion has released.

This sources can be downloaded.

* filesysbox.library source code
* NTFS-3G source code
* Source code of AmiGS
* Source of AmiPDF
* Source of DocViewer
* Source of Ghostscript

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I am a registered customer, but only for 4.0 - and due to technical problems I can't even see downloads that should be available to 4.0 customers.

Some files can be downloaded with out login, you might failed to type user name correct, today I tried to login, and failed, and by trial and error found that that my user name was all lower case, and my e-mail was out of date, lucky I managed to fix that.

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This sources can be downloaded. * filesysbox.library source code * NTFS-3G source code * Source code of AmiGS * Source of AmiPDF * Source of DocViewer * Source of Ghostscript

Wow, thanks for the info. I'd appreciate it a lot of somebody could supply these to me, so we can archive them for posterity.

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you might failed to type user name correct

No, I'm properly logged in. It's a bug confirmed by Costel (Hyperion), he simply sent me the required files via e-mail when we found out about it a while ago. Doesn't really matter in this case, as apparently I wouldn't have access to them anyway (not a registered 4.1 customer, since I sold my SAM ages ago). But if this stuff is GPL, it's freely distributable, obviously - so if somebody could help out, I'd be greatful.

@cgutjahr

Well there is no good point in getting the out dated sources from Hyperion, A-EON just released an updated AmiPDF.

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@RWO

I didn't know about this one. Does that mean it's in Enhancer or AmiStore?

To my knowledge it isn't depreciated which is where the Enhancer programs come from so I don't know how AEON got hold if it.

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@RWO

That is true for AmiPDF, but until a customer requests the sources for the new AmiPDF from A-EON, the AmiPDF sources from Hyperion are all we have.

There are no newer versions of the other projects anyway, so these sources should be preserved anyway.

@RWO

whats new in this AmiPDF compared to the one included in AOS4.1FE ?

@lionstorm

Some GUI fine tuning mainly, plus the xpdf core now builds again, the code being 4.0 based needed alittle nudge here and there.


I'm working (longish term) on a XPDF3.04 port based on the above code, I have software rendering working and have been working on a compositing based hardware layer.

This is not in the current release though.

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@Deniil715

My AmiPDF reader at a minimum still consumes about a 1/5 of the screen it is on. I cannot get it to reduce the width. Given that inability and the desire to appreciate pictures meant to be seen all at once, and at a resolution that is comfortable, the reader WILL be a big consumer of the desktop.

While working, I do have many windows open.. 2 or 3 Ann, typically 1 shell, and the Odyssey browser to monitor incoming email via webmail (often a 2nd in a separate window, since its usually holding search results), but the PDF one (when needed) does remain in the back. I move windows out of the way to see anything that I've managed to forget that was needed from it. I don't click it to the front.

My Sony 45 centimeter LCD monitor has no mounting provisions other than landscape.

I posted a picture of the "grabbed" desktop with AmiPdf squeezed down as much I've been able to manage: http://cjwyche.org/2016/20160831/amipdf_width.jpg
its a very small 8K file, but you'll see what I mean.

How do you manage AmiPDF's footprint?

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@ggw

I don't know if I can shrink it to more than half the screen with. I typically make it occupy half the screen. Full, or almost full height, and half the width, like an A4 paper, which is normally what my PDFs are made of.

@fishy_fis

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fishy_fis wrote: @Deniil715 Easy.... just use a 2nd screen for viewing pdfs and set the pdf documents to display 2 pages per screen, then set the pdf viewer to full screen. Alternatively, rotate your 2nd monitor at 90 degrees. You seem to be dismissing pdf based on the fact that if you use them in an 80's/90's type fashion theyre dated....... how about using them in modern fashion? None of your points are valid there. Not one.

Yes, and now back from Acrobat Reader on windows to AmiPDF on Amiga...

My point is that I pretty much always want to see other programs at the same time, I don't ONLY want to read a PDF. It typically contains either a bill, with a billing number I need to retype or copy if possible to the internet bank in Odyssey, which is also never in full screen, but side-by-side to AmiPDF, or a technical description of something, like programming or else where I need to see more than the PDF at the same time. Full screen is always out of the question for my use cases.

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@broadblues

No, it's not broken. The resize() function will of course update my_window_size such that my_window_size always refers to what was actually refreshed - the last know size of my window.

The naming of the variables was perhaps not the best. Should be more like:
if(IDCMP_NEWSIZE) {
if(current_window_size == last_window_size) then ignore; else redraw(current_window_size);
}
}

with redraw updating last_window_size.

But yours is fine too.

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That easy in flat C event loop but in AmiPDFs complex C++ class based event handler it just isn't as simple.

Ah of course, a side-effect of OOP. Should have guessed... Encapsulation: Noone should know or care about anything or anyone but themselves. Neat idea when presented in theory at the university. Makes seemingly simple things like this require cumbersome workarounds or "hacks" to fix in OOP code.

I'm currently working on an impossible product at work. Some dude apparently had som OOP frenzy with a strong abstraction fetish. Result: Unimaginably complex code. Wherever one looks, the work has been put "on someone else". Extreme case of abstraction and encapsulation.m Slow as fuck, buggy as hell. Impossible to read and trace. I'm not saying 100% imperative C would have been better, but there should always be a balance. No theoretical extreme works in practice.

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@ggw

Yes I can see what you mean. You really have squeezed it down. That image is tiny.

@cgutjahr

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cgutjahr wrote: These days, one would use Poppler (a shared library for decoding PDF, and the most accurate free PDF implementation afaik) instead of xpdf.

Never heard of it.
Does it also popel on real Amigas - errrmmm - I mean - run on real Amigas?

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cgutjahr wrote: @dandy: Quote: Let me reply to this with an analogy: Since you don't have to "exercise" reading PDFs or using a PDF reader, I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Had you read my posting to the end, you might have noticed my last, summerising sentence:

"Even if it was really slow - I was glad it worked at all and enabled me to exercise at home."

So what I've been "getting at" clearly was the fact that it worked at all back then on my low spec Amiga - despite being slow.
Enabling me to exercise at home was a welcome side benefit and - of course - only related to DynaCadd and CNC.

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cgutjahr wrote: I'm sure nobody would mind having a modern PDF reader on OS3, but "I don't mind" doesn't sound like a good enough reason to have a go at it.

Is this directed at me?
As I don't have a "I don't mind" in my posting...

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cgutjahr wrote: Does AROS have a PDF reader?

I don't know...
I never used AROS...

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