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Spectre660 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 27-Jul-2016 23:30:26
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@klapdeur

I notice that Elwood is listed as a beat tester of HunoPPC's games.
You may be able to PM him regarding what works for sound on the Sam460ex with these games.

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K-L 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 28-Jul-2016 8:12:57
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@Spectre660

Huno tests his games on a Sam460 and an X1000 (and we test them on other systems), we never encounter this no sound trouble. Wierd.

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Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 28-Jul-2016 8:44:25
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I have it only with games like smokin guns games like hurricanmetal slug 1941 deluxe works fine. Only games based on quake engine have no sound.
And thats wierd because all quake game running fine here

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Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 29-Jul-2016 10:06:00
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@klapdeur

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Only games based on quake engine have no sound.

So the hardware is OK. Same for the driver.
Only this game engine should be investigated.

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klapdeur 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 29-Jul-2016 12:09:32
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@elwood

U have tried to change the config file sound setting from 22 khz to 44 wich helped with quake 1 and 2 and 3 starwars games also.
But games like smoking guns no sound and urban terror also no sound.

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Hypex 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 29-Jul-2016 17:06:27
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I don't know how you got it to work. That Smokin' Guns is huge. So I installed it but I just think it's buggy. I must have loaded it up five times and only got to the game screen once. But it always freezes my A1-XE machine. When it was playing the speed was dog slow like Quake on an A1200. And the sound stuttered. I can only conclude it to be pointless. Which is a shame. As it looked good.

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K-L 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 29-Jul-2016 18:41:26
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Needs a huge config (256MB Video Ram and at least 1GB RAM).

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iggy 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 30-Jul-2016 14:55:12
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He already has the best card ,an ESI @julia. (They cost about US$199.00).


If it doesn't work, its hardly the best card, regardless of its being overpriced.
And, as far as sound quality goes, the Envy24 seems to easily match most CMI8738 based solutions.

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Spectre660 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 30-Jul-2016 15:22:48
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@iggy

There seems to be an issue with at least the two games mentioned and Sam460's.
Sound from other games work with his card so there is no problem with his card.
Notice no one has so far said that they have sound working with these two games and a
Sam460 with any soundcard.

By the way the sound card that he has is a card used by professional musicians so I would not call it overpriced just high end .
http://www.esi-audio.com/products/juliaxte/


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@Spectre660

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He already has the best card ,an ESI @julia. (They cost about US$199.00).


If it doesn't work, its hardly the best card, regardless of its being overpriced.
And, as far as sound quality goes, the Envy24 seems to easily match most CMI8738 based solutions.

Last edited by Spectre660 on 30-Jul-2016 at 03:26 PM.
Last edited by Spectre660 on 30-Jul-2016 at 03:25 PM.

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Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 30-Jul-2016 16:48:35
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@K-L

That's more than the read me says. I have half of one and twice the other. I got 128MB VRAM and 2GB fast RAM.

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klapdeur 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 30-Jul-2016 20:50:42
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@iggy

the card works fine only some ports from huno doesnt give any sound even on the onboard sm502 chip no sound.

and heretic 2 from hyperion has no sound why dont know.

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klapdeur 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 31-Jul-2016 14:28:56
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@elwood

U have tried to change the config file sound setting from 22 khz to 44 wich helped with quake 1 and 2 and 3 starwars games also.
But games like smoking guns no sound and urban terror also no sound.

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iggy 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 31-Jul-2016 15:14:53
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@Spectre660

You seem to think I don't know what ESI cards are.
Whether you aware of it or not, ESI used to make an Envy24 based card.
Further, for the components included in the julia, it is a drastically overpriced piece of hardware AND it is in no way appropriate for a low end system like a SAM460.

BTW - Stop talking down to me.
You may be our Linux guru (and I DO acknowledge that you're pretty damned good), but I was using multi-tasking, multi-user process control OS' when Linux was in its infancy (and wasn't really worth using).

Edit - Oh, after the rant, it does look like a software issue.

Last edited by iggy on 01-Aug-2016 at 02:37 PM.
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Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 31-Jul-2016 16:30:05
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@klapdeur

What about matching your config? 22.05 or 44.1. Or use 48 and set that in AHI. Unless you are just abbreviating here.

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klapdeur 
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Posted on 31-Jul-2016 17:02:39
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@Hypex

I always had my ahi config on 44.1 khz set and tried 48 and 32 lower the nevy doesnt give sound in the test button in ahi prefs. Also 32 or 15 bit all kind of variations tried.

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Hypex 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 1-Aug-2016 15:13:22
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@klapdeur

There must be something wrong with the driver then. It should be able to play the whole frequency range in AHI Prefs. And all modes should work.

I notice the testing sound, which sounds like the hearing test I got at school, is a bit unprofessional with an audable click on the end. Also, it sounds more clear in mono than stereo which was flat, epsecially the high modes. I've only an SB-EMU10K.

I know it's a pain, but do you have another sound card to test? A simpler one perhaps.

Last edited by Hypex on 01-Aug-2016 at 03:14 PM.

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klapdeur 
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Posted on 1-Aug-2016 15:17:24
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@Hypex

No i dont have any pcie 1x cards only old sb vard pci and i dont have any pci slots over ghe one i use is my sata card wich i use for booting etc

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Spectre660 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 7-Aug-2016 13:37:55
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@klapdeur

A solution from Steven Jeffery. Thanks Steven .
Both Smoking Guns and Urban Terror sound will work .

Set your AHI Music unit settings to
Unit 0 : HiFi 16 bit Stereo++

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K-L 
Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 7-Aug-2016 13:49:30
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@Spectre660

Indeed, here how should be configured AHI (in order to mix many sources) :

http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/AHI-1.jpg
http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/AHI-2.jpg
http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/AHI-3.jpg
http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/AHI-4.jpg
http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/AHI-5.jpg*

Musical Unit must point to Unit 1 and Unit 1 must be configured bor the best rendering.

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Re: will this sound card work on a sam460ex os4.1 ??
Posted on 8-Aug-2016 14:21:02
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@K-L

Thanks will try those settings .

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