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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 20:01:49
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If you like games, there are many really good emulators of various platforms. Eg. FPSE (PSX) should be fast enough for 2D games (like Adventures of Lomax I´m playing right now ). Some newer titles are also available only for PowerPC (Heretic 2, Baldurs Gate, Warcraft 2, Jagged Alliance 2). |
i seldom play retro games. especially if they are natively available on other platforms i have. i dont need quick and dirty ppc ports. im fine with genuine amiga software, you need an emu elsewhere to run. thx. |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 20:09:31
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I knew most developers of Phase5 but I never heard of this guy, maybe he came there just before Phase5 went under.
He has posted some old pictures on Facebook, most of them where used in the Phase5 manuals and on Phase5's WWW pages.
I don't know anything about his plans. Wawa is right, the same old accelerator cards would make little sense: 68060 is overpriced, SCSI is expensive and not really useful, ZII cards are cumbersome and overpriced.
Continuing with the original Phase5 products seems impossible ...
Update There was an half official press realese from Phase5 made by this guy between 1999 and 2002 http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-1999-03-00294-DE.html
Here is a chat from him during his time with BPlan http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2002-01-00213-DE.html |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 20:15:16
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Well, I´m great fan of emulation (of any platform on any platform). The faster CPU, the better. And nothing is faster than 604e on Amiga. |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 20:18:01
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Run some PowerPC software and let it shine! |
i did. some jpg datatypes, anything notably else to name? |
FXpaint, Candy Factory, Elastic dreams, Wildfire 7 and Tornado 3D are some that I can think of off the top of my head.Last edited by Rob on 23-Sep-2016 at 08:20 PM.
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 20:30:27
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fine. i prefer less hassle and a native software on native system if i have it. emulation is a handy tool in absence of it, or if necessary where it is significantly faster thatn the original, which isnt the case on ppc. so emulating anything released on pc on a ppc extension of an amiga escapes my understanding in most cases, while it might be fun for some.
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FXpaint, Candy Factory, Elastic dreams, Wildfire 7 and Tornado 3D |
is that all? alas it mostly sounds like broken by design or unnecessary positions. elastic dreams must be morphing while i think wildfire was some program to make transitions i got on some cover disk i never got to run. have you even been able to render anything with tornado? i doubt..Last edited by wawa on 23-Sep-2016 at 08:31 PM. Last edited by wawa on 23-Sep-2016 at 08:30 PM.
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 20:46:31
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I don´t use much productivity software, but PPaint is certainly my application of choice. Then add MysticView picture viewer (render library and datatypes may be PPC native) and MP3 player like AmigaAMP, if you sometimes listen to music. Playing videos on Amiga certainly isn´t good idea, but you get best results with PowerPC native players. |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 21:30:36
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Yes its the same guy, so he was from bplan...hmm i find it still interesting, and they still answer on their FB page that this is not a hoax...so i wait and see..
they also stated a blizzard 1260 version 2, was there a version 2 of this board? Last edited by Uitgang on 23-Sep-2016 at 09:32 PM.
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 22:00:11
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emulating anything released on pc on a ppc extension of an amiga escapes my understanding |
Yeah, I use PPC systems and that one doesn't make sense to me either, but then I'm not using much legacy software._________________ Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective" |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 22:12:50
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Run MorphOS on it and you'll get quite a different experience. When I stil had my A1200 w/ 603e/200 I was surprised how nicely the system was useable. And with some nice differences to Pegasos (or Macs): You can run many, many programs on an AmigaPPC with MorphOS that actually hit the custom hardware chips.
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 22:16:11
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 22:52:39
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Run MorphOS on it and you'll get quite a different experience. When I stil had my A1200 w/ 603e/200 I was surprised how nicely the system was useable. And with some nice differences to Pegasos (or Macs): You can run many, many programs on an AmigaPPC with MorphOS that actually hit the custom hardware chips. |
i tried once and i couldnt get it to boot. im over with it now. |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 23-Sep-2016 23:00:41
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FXpaint, Candy Factory, Elastic dreams, Wildfire 7 and Tornado 3D |
is that all? alas it mostly sounds like broken by design or unnecessary positions. elastic dreams must be morphing while i think wildfire was some program to make transitions i got on some cover disk i never got to run. have you even been able to render anything with tornado? i doubt.. |
I said it was what I could think of off the top of my head and that's just commercial software. I forgot about Hollywood and there are various plugins for other other 68k applications.
There's plenty of other software on Aminet including some games not available on other platforms.
I set up the links below so you can simply browse all WarpOS and PowerUP software
http://wup.aminet.net/search?arch[]=ppc-warpup&sort=path&start=0
http://aminet.net/search?arch[]=ppc-powerup&start=0&sort=path |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 24-Sep-2016 0:23:26
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the main problem with hollywood on amiga was the throughput to rtg. ppc didnt help with it a bit. i know since this was my motivation to try out a ppc board at all, even i had not put much hopes with it. and i have been proven right, alas. it was a slide show. for hollywood its best to get a vampire, since it has magnitudes fater bus to rtg. there are videos on the web. no comparison to a ppc accel.
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I set up the links below so you can simply browse all WarpOS and PowerUP software |
thx, but why should i do it? i dont need any ppc replacements for shell comands or the like. few hundred positions available thorugh your links are but a tiny part of more than 50gb content aminet apparently provides. it simply proves my point, that there never was any ppc software to speak of.Last edited by wawa on 24-Sep-2016 at 12:24 AM.
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 24-Sep-2016 6:55:14
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i tried once and i couldnt get it to boot. im over with it now. |
Forget about decade old MorphOS 1.4.5, upgrade to AmigaOS 4.1 FE! |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 24-Sep-2016 9:31:41
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from phase 5 fb page:
This is a very serious proceeding and all people of any Amiga Forums are welcome to contact us directly, before inventing any false Stories without any confirmed information. The new phase 5 digital products UG was build up completely new on March 2016 with all the permisions needed for selling officialy and legaly electronic devices, like the WEEE Number (recieved in August 2016), offices, tax numbers and much more things. This is an ongoing procedure since 1 year with a hughe amount of hard work and for obvious reasons we waited before going public. We already recieved the first parts for assembling cards. So you can consider it like a restarted new phase 5 company, but with an expanded product portfolio, including some other fine Amiga Expansions. bplan is a great engineering company for the development of electronic devices, but is at the moment not involved. Behind the new phase 5 digital products UG company is a former employee of the old phase 5 digital products GbR company together with a well known european leading PCB manufacturer with a Master Supply Agreement signed back in February 2016 and a very professional PCB assembly Partner in Germany. More details upon press release. Thank you for your attention. |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 24-Sep-2016 9:46:29
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its best to get a vampire, since it has magnitudes fater bus to rtg. there are videos on the web. no comparison to a ppc accel. |
Well, that does not make the PowerPC, slow, it just proves the classic hardware is bit outdated. In some benchmarks 68060 beats the Vampire, Vampire does have FPU working fully, MMU is not fully implemented. As for building a new Accelerator with PowerPC for classic Amiga, I don't think it makes much sense as you pointed out bus speed on classic Amiga is not that great, and you need Radeon HD 7xxx card somewhere on to take full advantage of AmigaOS4.1, how you going to fit it all in Amiga1200 or Amiga500.
Anyway, more compatible AmigaONE hardware with Commodore Amiga custom chips in FPGA might have been cool (Paula sound, timing (CIAA/CIAB) and floppy controller, joystick ports).
Anyway there is the ACA500, that has Amiga1200 expectation port. allowing Bizzard cards to plugged in, but on the outside of Amiga500Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 24-Sep-2016 at 09:49 AM.
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 24-Sep-2016 10:33:12
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upgrade to AmigaOS 4.1 FE! |
And continue to use those sad old 603e chips with your really slow legacy chipset. There's a reason the version of MorphOS that supports that hardware is not longer updated.
Because a $99 Efika was faster.
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 24-Sep-2016 10:58:49
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And continue to use those sad old 603e chips with your really slow legacy chipset. |
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Because a $99 Efika was faster. |
5 years old PC I use right now is faster than any AmigaOS 4/MorphOS computer in existence... |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 24-Sep-2016 11:40:43
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But it doesn't run MorhOS native. Efika does. _________________ My programs: via.bckrs.de MorphOS user since V0.4 (2001) |
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Re: Phase 5 company is back?? real or troll Posted on 24-Sep-2016 11:57:49
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