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Signal 
Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 1-Nov-2016 12:51:49
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I purchased a Raspberry Pi 3 about a week ago and it has been a delight to use. It's just amazing how much power a $40 computer can have.

Right now I'm running Raspbian Linux on this thing and even though the Ethernet is really connected thru USB2 the Chromium browser is able to play youtube vids at full speed @360p. Not bad.

RiscOS is being worked on for the RPi3. The differences from the earlier Raspberries have made using RiscOS a challenge or the developers. It is to the point of booting and running some of the software but not well enough integrated yet to use daily. I still have not figured out how to get it up and running but it is being worked on and several others do have it operating.

If anybody here knows how to get RiscOS booting please let me know.

That's all for now. Posted with Rpi3


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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
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@Signal

Yeah, they're great little machines. Typically I'm a bit of a power user. The sort of person who finds his 4ghz i7 outdated (its a few generations old) and won't touch anything lesser (mainstream desktops at least... I also have a 4ghz i5 AROS box and 3.1ghz i5 laptop).

The price, and the form factor of the rpis however was/is quite appealing. I like small and quiet pcs (even my i7 is sff/quiet).

I've recently got an rpi3 as well to go along with my rpi2. Am running Amibian on it and having a blast with it. Its obviously orders of magnitudes slower than running a similar setup on a more typical PC, but honestly, I like it that way. Far from slow (over clocked '060 type speeds), and more authentic feeling (amithlon covers the higher end for me anyway). The fact it boots straight into an OS without post screens, etc. is a subtle, but cool "feature" too. Really enhances the illusion. In fact from power on until a fully loaded Workbench the rpis beat my 40mhz '040 based a1200 by a few seconds.

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Signal 
Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 3-Nov-2016 14:27:56
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I'm posting this from my Rpi3 using NetSurf on RiscOS.

It's a bit of a learning curve jumping to a different OS but it is fun. I
guess more than anything it's a matter of feeling your way around and
bumping your head now and again.

Of course I could not have got RiscOS working without help from the good
people over at Risc OS Open. If anybody here would like to try RiscOS on
a Rpi3 a proceedure for doing so is available.




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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 3-Nov-2016 15:50:00
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@Signal

The problem of Firefox is: it dont play videos from egl/vdpau/va accelerations.
if it was working in this way you will be able to play 1080p youtube video without issue.
You can check your self if install linux and kodi on your pi and play mp4 and mkv at 1080p there.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
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@tlosm
Chromium in Aeros plays 1080p : )
It is compiled with some ubuntu components. 360p is if you play flash instead of html5

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
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My webserver is running Raspian off a Pi 3b...
www.diasintegrated.com

I found setting up a mail server cumbersome (because I hate Linux) so I'm just running hMailServer on a windows box.

Would love to see an AROS port that is not behind a paywall...

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
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@Lou Try Axigen. Its free for one domain and up to 10 users. I used it for several years and it was a really great product. Later I changed to postfix which is truly cumbersome but also open source and without commercial restrictions.

https://www.axigen.com/mail-server/free/

Raspberry Pi 3 and RiscOS is still on my todo list

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@phoenixkonsole

Interesting info

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Signal 
Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 4-Nov-2016 6:33:46
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@ tlosm
Thanks for the hint.

@ Lou
Right now I have Raspbian Jessie w/Pixel, and of course RiscOS w/problems.

@ hawk
Since the RPi3 uses a different ARM (v8) design than the earlier models some of the programming is different and at this time under development. Which is not really a problem for me since I have much to learn anyway.

There is no ready-made RiscOS to use on Pi3 at this time , but you can use Linux to set up a RiscOS boot card and use a USB stick for the disk drive. All good fun.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
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@Signal

... im able to play 1080p video on kodi on Pi version B thanks to egl2 .
another thing i suggest is install retropie if you like emulation
and you can install matilda Castilla too , there is a special version for Pi

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 4-Nov-2016 12:14:43
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@tlosm

That is a nice game. Reminds me of Zool 1.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
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@Signal

yes cool game ported by Allan on AmigaOs 3.9 and 4x too

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
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@Signal

Quote:

@ Lou
Right now I have Raspbian Jessie w/Pixel, and of course RiscOS w/problems.

Yes, I have the desktop gui but I haven't found a email server with a gui administrative interface and the instructions I followed to use POSTFIX with DOVECOT caused errors.

I was hoping to get it all running off the same Pi and instead resorted to leaving my desktop on to handle my business email. Oh well, I guess I'll have to install more solar panels to cover the extra electricity costs...

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 5-Nov-2016 14:16:21
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@Lou

When it comes to mail servers.....I know nothing! (Sgt. Shultz), but it looks like others are available and maybe better integrated for the Pi?

Over on http://iconbar.com there is a new software/cloud service available for RiscOS.

Most of the time I run RiscOS. About the only thing I do with Linux is play around with Node.js and Wolfram.

There has been some discussion on the ROOL site about duel booting either from an SDcard or a USB drive. Now that would save card switching and make things a whole lot easier.

I have only had this RPi3 for about a week now and I must say, it is fun.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 5-Nov-2016 14:51:02
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@Signal

Quote:
Right now I have Raspbian Jessie w/Pixel

Simon did a good job with PIXEL; it's a nice upgrade over standard LXDE.

I really like the Raspberry Pi -- it makes computing fun, the way some other system did 30 years ago.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 5-Nov-2016 17:57:49
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@bison

A very nice job indeed.

I know what you mean about 30 years ago. Back then hardware mattered and you actually could do computing things.
Today, everything is about the API. Follow the rules! Stay between the lines! You WILL be told what you can do with our product. Phooey!

Yes, computers are much more complex today and everybody wants things like INTERNET and e-mail. But, that does not mean there must not be room for the hobbyist, because that is where the future comes from.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 11-Nov-2016 15:15:09
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A screenshot of my RPi3 running Linux.

RPi3-SCREENSHOT

I'll try to post a RiscOS shot later.

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Posted on 12-Nov-2016 1:35:54
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@Signal

In regards to RPI making computers fun again I both agree and disagree.
On one hand, I do really enjoy my Pi's. It is great fun. On the other hand, other than the gpio stuff, there's absolutely nothing that can be done on it that a person couldn't do on pretty much any x86 PC, etc. In the last 20 years. The big difference is that you're forced to do things outside of what you know/what you're comfortable with.
There's a world of fun computing out there. Things like the RPI just kind of force a person to explore them. Definitely not a bad thing though.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 12-Nov-2016 12:41:29
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@fishy_fis

Quote:

fishy_fis wrote:
@Signal

There's a world of fun computing out there. Things like the RPI just kind of force a person to explore them. Definitely not a bad thing though.


I agree with your assessment. That's why these little gems are just great for kids, no matter their age.

Sure beats Twitter.

RiscOS on RPi3 Picture

Last edited by Signal on 12-Nov-2016 at 01:50 PM.

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3
Posted on 12-Nov-2016 23:09:34
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@fishy_fis

Quote:
In regards to RPI making computers fun again I both agree and disagree. On one hand, I do really enjoy my Pi's. It is great fun. On the other hand, other than the gpio stuff, there's absolutely nothing that can be done on it that a person couldn't do on pretty much any x86 PC, etc. In the last 20 years.


That in itself is a major plus.

Imagine it the AmigaOS had the same capabilities and was able to run on inexpensive hardware.

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