Click Here
home features news forums classifieds faqs links search
5655 members 
Amiga Q&A /  Free for All /  Emulation /  Gaming / (Latest Posts)
Login

Nickname

Password

Lost Password?

Don't have an account yet?
Register now!

Support Amigaworld.net
Your support is needed and is appreciated as Amigaworld.net is primarily dependent upon the support of its users.
Donate

Menu
Main sections
Home
Features
News
Forums
Classifieds
Links
Downloads
Extras
OS4 Zone
IRC Network
AmigaWorld Radio
Newsfeed
Top Members
Amiga Dealers
Information
About Us
FAQs
Advertise
Polls
Terms of Service
Search

IRC Channel
Server: irc.amigaworld.net
Channel: #Amigaworld
Channel Policy and Guidelines

(Uses JAVA Applet and Port 1024)
Visit the Chatroom Website

Who's Online
 53 guest(s) on-line.
 0 member(s) on-line.



You are an anonymous user.
Register Now!
 tlosm:  23 mins ago
 ggw:  25 mins ago
 Drewlio77:  36 mins ago
 Fl@sh:  37 mins ago
 thomas:  51 mins ago
 AdvancedFollower:  57 mins ago
 stefanjo:  1 hr 13 mins ago
 Jasper:  1 hr 21 mins ago
 OlafS25:  1 hr 32 mins ago
 clint:  2 hrs 2 mins ago

/  Forum Index
   /  Amiga General Chat
      /  Amiga Inc. Loses U.S. Trademarks
Register To Post

Goto page ( Previous Page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 Next Page )
PosterThread
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 17-Nov-2017 19:15:14
#321 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@AP

Because this is a magazine, I feel I should ask you if it is alright to discuss the contents of your interview with Ben Hermans.
Honestly, there is SO little info coming out of Hyperion, I think people who do not subscribe to your fine magazine would be interested in the content.

Your thoughts?

#6

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
AP 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 17-Nov-2017 19:37:51
#322 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 31-Jul-2003
Posts: 381
From: Vienna/Austria

@number6: First of all I should mention, that Ben Hermans didn't speak "official" for Hyperion in the interview (he made this very clear to me, when I asked for the interview), but as he founded Hyperion and was one of its directors for many years, part of the interview was of course Hyperion-related.

I agree, that there is not really much (and not always well coordinated) PR from Hyperion (If someone wants to hire a professional journalist for this matter there: I would do it )

I also agree, that the interview could be interesting for non-subscribers of Amiga Future , too. BTW: There is the possibility to order single issues of the magazine, too.

To cut a long on story short: I have no problem, to share/discuss the interview with you, but as I am not the chief-editor/publisher of the magazine, its not my decision and I am not really allowed to do it.

What I can/will do: I will ask Andreas Magerl, if there is a possibility to publish the interview (or parts of it) in on the AF-website.


_________________

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 17-Nov-2017 20:04:16
#323 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@AP

Thank you.

Quote:
What I can/will do: I will ask Andreas Magerl, if there is a possibility to publish the interview (or parts of it) in on the AF-website.


That is exactly why I asked first. I want to respect the rights of the magazine.

Quote:
but as he founded Hyperion


Please understand this is not a criticism, but merely a clarification for those who wish to understand history:
Legally speaking it would be more accurate to say "one of the founders", a fact which has been made clear prior on AW by Evert Carton, when a similar claim was made about this being solely "Ben Hermans & family"
Posts #161 & #162

The documents concerning the company are public record.

#6


_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
persia 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 20-Nov-2017 10:52:24
#324 ]
Super Member
Joined: 14-Jul-2009
Posts: 1058
From: Unknown

So what is the status of the Amiga trademark of computers? I can find Cloanto, which is live In the US and Hyperion on live in the UK and pretty much up for grabs in th rest of the World. So what does that mean for the use of the name?

Last edited by persia on 20-Nov-2017 at 11:01 AM.
Last edited by persia on 20-Nov-2017 at 10:57 AM.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 20-Nov-2017 14:19:30
#325 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@persia

Quote:
So what is the status of the Amiga trademark of computers?


It doesn't work quite like that. This is about "class 9".

read the list of goods/services here
Click at right "expand all"

Quote:
So what does that mean for the use of the name?

It means you wait or you do something that might well incur a polite request to cease any branding activity, followed by a stronger cease&desist notice, followed by all the filings we see as of today.
So yes, it means all the projects I read about worldwide, be they close to completion or in the idea stage all start asking the same questions.
What can I do?
Whom do I contact for approval?
etc.
And no one can answer these questions obviously, so nothing happens.

The next important dates on the calendar are December 13 for Cloanto's response to Itec LLC's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga and December 16 for Cloanto's response to Hyperion Entertainment CVBA's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga.

#6

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 21-Nov-2017 14:08:25
#326 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@number6

Re:prior post in this thread:
Quote:
The next important dates on the calendar are December 13 for Cloanto's response to Itec LLC's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga and December 16 for Cloanto's response to Hyperion Entertainment CVBA's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga.


An extension to respond to Itec LLC's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga trademark, has been granted to Cloanto.

Highlights include a new schedule and the statement:

Quote:
The grounds for this request are as follows:
- Parties are engaged in settlement discussions


Source
Click at right to view individual documents.

#6

Last edited by number6 on 21-Nov-2017 at 02:11 PM.

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 25-Nov-2017 21:37:14
#327 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@thread

Re:Amikit filing for Amiga in Slovak Republic

Status change to:
Quote:
registered trademark


Quote:
Date of registration 22/11/2017


#6

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 27-Nov-2017 15:18:18
#328 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@thread

Whereas Amigakit's Benelux filing for trademark still reads:

Opposition has been filed

I see a filing was made in September in Australia and now reads:
Accepted

Correspondent address:
Quote:
Leaman Computing Ltd
3.07 Waterloo-on-Quay Apartments
28 Waterloo Quay
Pipitea
Pipitea 6011 Wellington
NEW ZEALAND


Seems to be a matched address for Trevor:
Source

Quote:
Apt 3.07, Waterloo On Quay Apartments, 28 Waterloo Quay, Piptea, Wellington 6011, New Zealand


In addition, I note that the Amiga Technology Ltd. legal disclaimer link is now gone:
Source

#6

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 27-Nov-2017 15:30:07
#329 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@aria

Heinz-Alexander Drews application for Amiga now published and opposition period running:

Source

#6

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
paolone 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 29-Nov-2017 10:47:14
#330 ]
Cult Member
Joined: 24-Sep-2007
Posts: 948
From: Unknown

I have a plan. I am registering the Amiga trademark on Mars. The day Martians will conquer our world, Amiga will be ALL MINE!!! Ahr ahr ahr ahr... ehm...

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
jorit2 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 29-Nov-2017 12:07:19
#331 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 22-Apr-2011
Posts: 162
From: Unknown

@paolone

Quote:

paolone wrote:
I have a plan. I am registering the Amiga trademark on Mars. The day Martians will conquer our world, Amiga will be ALL MINE!!! Ahr ahr ahr ahr... ehm...


Too late ...

Evert

_________________

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 30-Nov-2017 14:54:53
#332 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@thread

Quote:
Plaintiff
Name: Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A.


Suspension Letters mailed

Clicking either serial# will take you to a page where you can "expand text" to see the complete document list.
Direct links:

AmigaOS

AmigaOne

#6



Last edited by number6 on 30-Nov-2017 at 03:01 PM.

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 4-Dec-2017 14:44:41
#333 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@thread

Forgot to mention new info on the 3rd filing by Hyperion Entertainment CVBA with uspto for the BoingBall:

Source

More on this here:
Approved for publication

As usual, click "expand all" to see all documents.

#6

Last edited by number6 on 04-Dec-2017 at 02:59 PM.

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
g01df1sh 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 4-Dec-2017 15:56:21
#334 ]
Super Member
Joined: 16-Apr-2009
Posts: 1267
From: UK

@number6

If only they spent as much time developing OS4.2 as do with this copyright crap

_________________
A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr
A1200 Power Tower mediator Radeon
RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC
Wii with Amiga emulation

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
pavlor 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 4-Dec-2017 15:59:45
#335 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 10-Jul-2005
Posts: 8572
From: Unknown

@g01df1sh

Necessary evil, I fear.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
megol 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 4-Dec-2017 18:37:10
#336 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 17-Mar-2008
Posts: 209
From: Unknown

@g01df1sh

Don't you mean trademark? Completely different thing.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 6-Dec-2017 22:05:49
#337 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@thread

Cloanto filing for Amiga in Germany

Appears to be extremely recent.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

#6


_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 6-Dec-2017 22:14:44
#338 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@thread

Well, the one above led me here:

Cloanto filing for Amiga (euipo)

#6

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
klx300r 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 6-Dec-2017 22:24:57
#339 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 4-Mar-2008
Posts: 3247
From: Toronto, Canada

@number6

hmm Cloanto is based out of Las Vegas

_________________
____________________________
c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII
! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 !
mancave-ramblings
X1000 I BELIEVE

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
number6 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 7-Dec-2017 0:10:31
#340 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 25-Mar-2005
Posts: 9991
From: In the village

@thread

Here's an interesting one:

Quote:
Abandonment Notice! On Wednesday, November 29, 2017, a U.S. federal trademark for Amiga, Inc. registration number 73571532 was abandoned having the name AMIGA. The Reason provided as CONTINUED USE NOT FILED WITHIN GRACE PERIOD, UN-REVIVABLE


Source 1

Source 2

Source 3

#6


Last edited by number6 on 07-Dec-2017 at 12:23 AM.
Last edited by number6 on 07-Dec-2017 at 12:18 AM.

_________________
This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author.
*Secrecy has served us so well*

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Goto page ( Previous Page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 Next Page )

[ home ][ about us ] [ forums ][ classifieds ] [ links ][ news archive ] [ link to us ][ user account ]
Copyright 2000 - 2017 Amigaworld.net.

Amigaworld.net was originally founded by David Doyle