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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 17:57:08
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Oh, I didn't mean deviant hacking, I meant legitimate hardware and software hacking. I really liked the early State sponsored PDP-11 clones. And I've seen some neat stuff done by Russians with the MC68K. |
There was also a huge number of ZX Spectrum clones available in Russia.
I remember it being claimed in Sinclair User that the huge popularity of the Spectrum in Russia was due too the small size of the original model making it easier to smuggle in. Sadly Roman busted that somewhat romantic myth for me a number years back when I asked him if there was any truth in it. |
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 18:20:06
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Popularity of zx spectrum in Russia was only because one man can build a computer at home, just with soldering iron, and there was milions of machines done by entuziasts. Even my first zx-specturm was done by some 40 years old alhocolic which life destroes after USSR broke :) And damn, joystik wasn't working as he wrongly solder it all.
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 18:35:30
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Oh, I get it! Iggy Pop...
Nah, my name is Jim (well, James actually). But my last name begins with IG, and I used to work in a company with only 12 employees that had 3 Jims. So, the first guy was Jim, the second we called by his last name, me...I went by an old High School nickname.
And that IS way off topic.
BTW - I'd still like to grab one of those Russian PDP-11 clones.
The PDP-11 in some ways is the precursor of the 68000. Features from the PDP-11 pop up in the 68K, and both are inspired more by mainframe processors than the current microprocessors of the day.
The Soviets were pretty slick copying that one.
There are Chinese and Russian cpus I'd like to have the opportunity to check out to this day (like Longsoon's MIPS cpus), but when you try to contact semiconductor companies in these countries to don't even respond to your inquires. Kind of pisses me off. If the Russian want to join the rest of the free world, why aren't they willing to market products to us (other than vodka)? |
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 19:18:55
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kas1e wrote: @Signal Quote:
Is that a full serial port, or just Rx/Tx ?
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Dunno. Is there any way to test it without soldering iron and buying stuff ?:) Like maybe some old os3x app, or something else which can check it ?
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 19:26:18
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| @iggy Quote:
If the Russian want to join the rest of the free world, why aren't they willing to market products to us (other than vodka)?
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Because we all drink vodka, live in the forest, play on balalayka, make matreshka and everyone have bear in the house, thats why :)
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 19:47:15
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| @Signal Found in manual that:
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The CPU provides two UARTs, one for external RS232 communication and one for MCU supervisor interface. The UART 0 signals are available on a DB9 connector, P16. This is a 5 wire RS232 interface with RTS and CTS
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Can't find exactly pinout diagram
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 19:56:00
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Some 350,000 Lada Riva, Niva and Samaras were sold in the UK between 1974 and 1997.
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Does the "Start Classic AmigaOS" option in the boot menu do anything yet? |
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 19:56:06
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I of course can make another topic, but iggy will deral it too |
Absolutely! BTW - Can you get me one of those Putin riding a bear shirtless statues? They are just TOO amusing. It would make a great conversation piece over here.
On the X5000, what is the max resolution that video can be displayed full screen? I have heard HD video is too much for one core of the P5020 (since we don't yet have gpu assisted decoding). Will it do 720p video without dropping frames?
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Some 350,000 Lada Riva, Niva and Samaras were sold in the UK between 1974 and 1997. |
We got some of the Ladas that were based on the Fiat 124 sedan over here (not sure what model that was, it looked like a Fiat 131 sedan, but with an optional crank handle to start the engine). Canada got a larger share than were shipped into the US though.
Obviously, the Russians CAN build serviceable, somewhat reliable goods. I'd kill to have a Fiat 124 Spyder right now (although I'd be willing to bet they didn't license THAT model).Last edited by iggy on 29-Apr-2017 at 08:02 PM.
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 20:19:33
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kas1e wrote: @Signal Found in manual that:
[quote] This is a 5 wire RS232 interface with RTS and CTS
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RTS, CTS. That is full, not just Rx/Tx. Thank You._________________ Tinkering with computers. |
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 29-Apr-2017 20:28:36
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| @Signal
There is also some other mcu debug serial terminal (on the mb itself, not in rear slot), noted like "The MCU also provides serial debug interface for status reporting of the read voltages and temperature rails. This uses a 6 pin FTDI USB-TTL cable pinout (P18)". And that one "pure", pinout are 1 - ground, 4 - rx (in), 5 - tx(out).
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Does the "Start Classic AmigaOS" option in the boot menu do anything yet?
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Nope, and i think it was in old uboot only (that one which was included for betatesters), in the normal one (i.e. that one which all users have), there is no such entry, just those ones:
start amigaos start morphos start linux boot options system info commad line
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On the X5000, what is the max resolution that video can be displayed full screen?
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I currently use 1440x900, tried also 1920x1200 ok too. Didn't tried more myself, but i read somewhere that up to 4k resolutions works fine.
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I have heard HD video is too much for one core of the P5020 (since we don't yet have gpu assisted decoding). Will it do 720p video without dropping frames?
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Dunno, didn't tested.
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 0:31:13
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about 720p video yes it can. _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 1:31:11
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about 720p video yes it can. |
Cool, I'm not too worried about HD, as I usually drop resolutions so that I can play back video on other devices. 720p is more than adequate for me.
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I wasn't kidding about the bear statue, do you think you could arrange to get me one?
The Electronika computers I can source here. Trying to figure out the keyboard or whatever OS it uses, that is another issue.
And Spectrums, clone or otherwise, hold zero interest for me.
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 9:19:45
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While my X5000 is sunning itself in a warehouse in beautiful Slough, I'm curious about a pair of jumpers on the motherboard labelled CPU LEDs. What are they for? _________________ --------------- AmigaOne X5000 P5020 2Ghz, OS 4.1 AmigaOne XE G4 800mhz, OS 4.1 A1200T 40Mhz 68040, OS 3.9 |
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 10:18:31
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For What i understand with my tests it are needed when the cpu are in standby or wake up. If i turn on the other machine in my LAN the led turn on waiting the wake up signal probably. The e5500 are first of all a comunicator processors Last edited by tlosm on 30-Apr-2017 at 10:19 AM.
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 14:33:58
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| @kas1e You showed at the beginning of this thread a picture of the AmigaOne System Information Screen. Under the title 'Memory' there is this 'CL=9'... What CL values are possible in the case of X5000/20, and what is it depending on? If you e.g. put a 1333Mhz and 1600MHZ in X5000, do you get different CL values for them...? With what type of Dimm did you get that CL=9?
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 16:58:45
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| i am so jalux. tell us were you live an i will come home to you and rube your house
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 21:55:32
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Thanks! Yesterday I bought exactly the same card you have and it is working So Asus R7 250 2GB GDDR5 is the one that is working also on A1222.
The card does not need any any additional power connectors also. I guess it will be fine.
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kas1e wrote: @dooz 250 wihtout X wasn't supported before, but they are now , and they ok and for nova and for old w3d/minigl. As far as i understand they usuall Oland chipset, but at least my one after tests wasn't Oland one, while in shop it was called as 250 without X gddr5 :) In other words, if you will take that one, chances that all will be fine 90% :)
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 22:27:36
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By the time Tabor is released, the more capable RX 550 ought to be available. |
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 22:31:08
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Because we all drink vodka, live in the forest, play on balalayka, make matreshka and everyone have bear in the house, thats why :) |
We all wear jeans, boots, and cowboy hats, speak with a southern drawl, eat nothing but hamburgers and fries, and listen to Elvis records over here.
BTW, you forgot to mention borscht.
And when are you going to answer my request for the bear statue?Last edited by iggy on 30-Apr-2017 at 10:32 PM.
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Re: my x5k: have questions and want honest answer ? ask there Posted on 30-Apr-2017 23:04:21
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| Over here in our Hotel some French customers asked that are there bears outside?
Might be but they fear people. Once got 5 meters away and stand up. Just peacefully back up.
Really there is no such fear as they go to Kasie;)
A question for the A5000. Is there comming a WB to fully support the cores &internet?
Still waiting for the AmigaoneXE.. |
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