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Hypex 
Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian
Posted on 10-May-2017 16:14:08
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@pearson101

Ok. I was hoping to see an image of the updater failing. Since that's what your post implied.

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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian
Posted on 19-May-2017 7:28:35
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@Hypex

Hi

Thanks i will try your os again to see if i can get it installed.

Just an update i have got the new firmware burnt to the bios chip now and i can install os4.0 now at last this installs great but i cannot install os 4.1 fe it just hangs reading the cd rom with the splash screen which is strange i know i have also tried to read the cd with os 4.0 pre - release already installed inwhich it does ok

Do i have to update the pre-release 4.0 version first with an update to install 4.1? or is it hardware incompatibility why the 4.1 fe is hanging.

Thanks

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Tomppeli 
Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian
Posted on 19-May-2017 10:20:02
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@pearson101

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it just hangs reading the cd rom with the splash screen

How long you waited for ? Maybe some of the FFS partitions is validating and it takes longer to get to Workbench because of that ?

I would have said it's USB problem but you said you got 4.0 installed. Getting to splash screen it means Kickstart is loaded and running (so no IDE addon card problem and you said you don't even have any). I have made a modified CD for the SE myself with every OS release where all USB stuff is removed and some device drivers switched to older versions.

Which graphics card do you have ?

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i have got the new firmware burnt to the bios chip now and i can install os4.0

Nice to hear you got the Uboot problem solved.

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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian
Posted on 19-May-2017 17:16:55
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@Tomppeli

Hi thanks for getting back to me I am using a voodoo graphics cars with the system

I Have tried different CD and DVD ROM drives compatible with the g3se and still a problem not loading hangs

With is 4.0 do I need to do update to this before I can install 4.1 fe its a strange one if I start with a new install its shows the splash screen without any activity HD or CD ROM
Just wondering if get into the sata way with a pci card but I may require drivers and os installed first
Whats is a good card to achieve this. Can I try burning another CD first just in case its a bad cd disk maybe

Thanks again

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Hypex 
Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian
Posted on 19-May-2017 18:03:24
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@pearson101

Good you are on your way. With 4.0 installed you can test the Debian installer.

FE is a fresh install only. The days of OS updating are over apparently.

So, when booting the FE CD, it was at cold boot with UBoot booting it and loading Kickstart off it?

Also bring up the early start menu (mouse buttons held down) after Kickstart has loaded off FE CD and make sure the CD is default boot. If not and it tried to boot off HD that looks like your problem.

If that all passes the test then I can only think of DMA issues. The SE has a few. In that case, easiest is if you still have OS4.0 bootable off HD. There should be a UBoot Prefs on there. On the IDE tab yo can switch all on board units to "Best PIO" to disable DMA.

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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian
Posted on 19-May-2017 18:38:56
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@pearson101

Things can go really wrong if you, your not used to AmigaONE computers, and AmigaOS, AmigaOS has some called boot priority. It defines what Partition that is going to be loaded, it Trump any action you have taken in UBOOT, if HD boot priority is higher than the CDROM boot priority, you end up booting AmigaOS4.0 on Kickstart4.1 this probably not going to work so well for you. as a result can be as you describe a frozen system. If you typed the wrong command in UBOOT, you might also experience AmigaOS4.1 being trying to be booted from Kickstart4.0, that is also going to not work at all. What does you boot screen look like, when your trying to boot from AmigaOS4.1 CD? Is it the correct startup image?

2en, thing while booting you can enter the kickstart menu, this is done by pressing LEFT+RIGHT mouse button like on old Amiga, right after kickstart modules are being loaded, or you can press SCROLL LOCK like crazy, from here you can pick the bootable media you wont to continue booting from or you can go into SHELL. You can also go into AmigaDOS/Shell by pressing SHIFT I believe while booting. (on classic Amiga It was CTRL+D I believe).

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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian
Posted on 19-May-2017 19:48:18
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@Hypex

thanks for getting back yeah the cd loading stops after kickstart reading from the cd like hangs also i tried holdinf the mouse buttons and it did nothing at all using a ps2 mouse

checked hboot cant see dma setting in there i will have alook in os 4.0 for them


at least the internet works on ibrowse for 30mins lol


will try your linux cd over the weekend thanks again for your advise i will be busy lol at least i have a half system that works without usb lol fun fun

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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian
Posted on 19-May-2017 19:52:25
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@NutsAboutAmiga

thanks for the advise i have tried this without success hitting the mouse buttons, maybe it could be the kickstart booting problem but it was booting of the cd rom drive as the main 1st drive in hboot etc

i will try again over the weekend



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Hypex 
Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian
Posted on 22-May-2017 13:11:06
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@pearson101

At this point with it freezing it might be a good time to get out the serial cable:

http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/Advanced_Serial_Debugging_Guide

Or, in fact, just try booting my Linux CD, and see how far it gets. Linux kernels tend to pick up on RAM and USB problems pretty quickly. And HD/DMA issues. That OS4 can breeze over. You can usually see the kernel get stuck and find a message on screen. And can also turn DMA and USB on or off to test which isn't as easy to do when booting OS4.

Given OS4.0 does boot suggests the problem is with OS4.1.

What is the layout of your system? RAM amount and type? HD and any controllers?

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