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AmiKit 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 20-May-2017 18:15:53
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@zzd10h

The magic happens on ALICE laptop only where AmiKit X runs on customised Linux distro with Amiga skin. That's exactly what you can see on that video.

AmiKit X on Windows or Mac is a regular app. It doesn't alter your Windows/Mac installation nor its visual theme, of course.

@Epsilon

Many thanks for your blog and positive feedback. You made more screenshots than me :))
I will share your review on AmiKit Facebook if you don't mind https://www.facebook.com/AmiKit/
Cheers

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BoingBear 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 21-May-2017 5:33:18
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@AmiKit

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AmiKit wrote:
@Fransexy

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Then When AmiKit 11 comes out the X wil be free?

Are you sure that you're so young to wait? ;)

@zzd10h
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Hi,
1) Do you know if it works with touchscreen (MS-Surface) ?

I believe it works, but's it's not optimized for touchscreen.

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2) is it possible to start Amikit in fullwindow mode at the start of Windows ?

Well, this is difficult with Windows... or Mac.

@all
Linux version might appear too. No promises, though (I am not a Linux user myself). Thank you for your interest!


I don't see why so many members here are waiting for a free version, or complaining that it is a product that requires payment and has no free test version. A lot of work has gone into creating and maintaining all versions of AmiKit, and Jan certainly deserves to earn a small amount of money back for all his hours of work. I do agree that it would be nice to be able to purchase the Linux hosted version that is used on the A.L.I.C.E. laptops, but I suppose that A-Eon has paid someone to create that Linux version, so A-Eon deserves to receive some compensation if they would agree to sell the software version detached from their A.L.I.C.E. laptop hardware. I would be happy to pay both AmiKit and A-Eon for the Linux version, so that I could install it on my i7 laptop, as I believe that all the A.L.I.C.E. laptops are only i3 powered laptops.

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zzd10h 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 23-May-2017 23:07:28
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@AmiKit

As the main goal of this purchase was the "integration" of Windows program on Amikit, i'm a little bit disappointed.

Except the alien look of Windows programs in Amikit workbench :
-when starting a rabbitholled program, Windows titlebar is displayed
-when reclicking on Amikit workbench, the Windows program is completely hidden
(edit : ok, i just read in your documentation that disappearing is normal...)

Is it normal behavior ? I hope that I missed something otherwise it's really not pratical and not transparent.

Thanks


PS : for my Steam problem that didn't started, I had to edit Rabbithole:Steam to write the absolute windows path of the executable.

Last edited by zzd10h on 23-May-2017 at 11:08 PM.

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fishy_fis 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 24-May-2017 1:39:15
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@zzd10h

Launching Windows software under a "virtual amiga" through Winuae is very simple.
Theres a tool called Winlaunch thats been freely available for many years (what Amikit uses).
Id probably be disappointed too if I spent money for a package of free tools and it didnt work as expected too :)

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wawa 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 24-May-2017 1:59:54
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i really dont get what people have expected of that "rabbit hole" all the time. its obvious that a proper integration of a program launched on host via emulation is rather complicated if possible. instead a simple solution has been chosen, as expected. one can trick himself into believing that he runs linux or windows applications from amiga, but what for?

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tommysammy 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 24-May-2017 5:26:49
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@zzd10h

Thanks for the report, rabbit hole didn't work as expected, i will wait for a better version and not buy this version

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paolone 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 24-May-2017 11:49:18
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@everyone

Hi. I din't know Winlaunch!
Thank you for pointing me into its direction, I am following a similar (yet more complete, as far as I can see) approach to start Windows and Linux applications from hosted AROS but, since there's no WinUAE to deal with, I guess it won't be useful.


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AmiKit 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 24-May-2017 20:17:19
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Regarding the Rabbit Hole feature, it works exactly as advertised: you can launch Windows or Mac apps from AmiKit. You can also open specific files (like documents and videos) with them if double-clicked in AmiKit.

Note that the native Windows or Mac apps are NOT skinned to look like Amiga apps, of course. AmiKit doesn't change your host system in any way. This has been achieved on ALICE laptop only, where AmiKit runs on customised Linux distro.

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Razzberry 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 24-May-2017 20:54:30
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@amigasociety
Thanks for the info.

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BoingBear 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 25-May-2017 1:11:22
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@AmiKit

Quote:

AmiKit wrote:
Regarding the Rabbit Hole feature, it works exactly as advertised: you can launch Windows or Mac apps from AmiKit. You can also open specific files (like documents and videos) with them if double-clicked in AmiKit.

Note that the native Windows or Mac apps are NOT skinned to look like Amiga apps, of course. AmiKit doesn't change your host system in any way. This has been achieved on ALICE laptop only, where AmiKit runs on customised Linux distro.


As you can see from some of the replies to this thread, the customized look provided from the altered Linux distro used on the A.L.I.C.E. laptop is a very desirable feature for many users. Can you reply to the question, will this customized Linux distro be available for purchase by yourself, or A-Eon any time in the future?

I'm guessing that A-Eon paid some LInux guru(s) to code the customization of some Linux distro for A.L.I.C.E., so they are probably the only people/company who are able to answer this question, unless you plan to duplicate their work, and offer a Linux version of AmiKitX. Since you have admitted you are not a Linux "expert", this task might prove difficult for you to complete.

I for one would gladly pay for such a Linux distro, to install on one or more of my x64 computers and/or laptops. I would also be interested in purchasing a version of AmiKitX for Windows, that performs exactly the same as the customized Linux distro, by modifying the Windows games/programs/applications/tools, to look more Amiga-Like, when started from the AmiKit desktop.

Keep up the great work Jan, it is greatly appreciated.

Edit: @wawa, to answer your question of "Why" people would care to run Windows, or Mac, or Linux programs from any Amiga, or Amiga-Like desktop, it's simple; we want to run an Amiga, or Amiga-Like OS environment, instead of Windows, MacOS, or Linux, but we also want the instant flexibility of being able to run any of the games or other programs/tools that are only available currently on Windows, MacOS, or Linux. And when we are able to run such non-Amiga games and programs/tools from the AmiKit desktop, we would like them to look more Amiga-Like, just as has been accomplished with the customized Linux distro, used on the A.L.I.C.E. laptops.

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AmiKit 
Re: Amikit X
Posted on 25-May-2017 7:26:48
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@BoingBear

For AmiKit X for Linux, if released, my previous reply applies (no host system modifications).

If you want a completely skinned system, try AmiKit 8 Portable. It includes a custom Linux distro called AmiPup, and boots the host computer with USB flash disk. It features Rabbit Hole too.

AmiKit X Portable, if released, will work on similar basis.

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