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awnakl 
SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 30-Mar-2014 12:13:47
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Hi all,

I'm aware that the following might be a little off-topic here
- so please excuse - but then again it's many developers around
here and the audience might fit better than on some general
news site.

SView5 (once SuperView, then SViewII and up) has been around in
the Amiga scene from 1993 on - with a migration to .NET and Linux
being main focus from 2008 on. The Amiga version did not see
any updates lately, i.e. the past 4-5 years.

Development actually did not pay off anymore starting from ca. 2004
on, for various reasons. However, even as a hobby I really do not
have sufficient time anymore - being father of two little daughters
hardly leaves any room for it for the next several years.

On the other hand, SView5 still may have some relatively unique
features in that combination. Under Windows I'd say there's only
a handful comparable tools in that area - but then a again many
commercial offerings and all-in-all everything is either free or
expected to be free.

After all, I'm considering to sell the source code to an interested
party in order to see it further developed. However it won't be
handed over for a nominal fee and also not for a student budget.
Price would have to be subject to negotiations and perhaps required some
commercial considerations to pay off for the buyer.

So I would be glad if any interested party would contact me on the
matter. Any offer should somehow value the amount of man-years
which went into its development and debugging.

Regarding the actual subject:

- there's the last AmigaOS / MorphOS source code:

- SView5 as a tool (C source)
- SView5-Library with many sub-libraries (modules, C source)
being used as a shared library

- the most recent branch consisting of:

- SView5 as a tool (C++ source for .NET)
- SView5 toolkit consisting of platform-independent C++ classes
which are structured similar to the previous C modules (also
regarding the API) but have to be statically linked (some
external code is used as DLL) - it works well under .NET but
is completely endian-neutral and should also work on any Linux

It should be fairly easy on that basis to create a next-gen
SView5-Library for AOS3/AOS4/MOS which internally builds up on the
new C++ classes (but with externally compatible API) *or* backport
the new classes' core to the old code scheme *or* use it for something
entirely different.

Regarding kind of crowd-funding (bounty) and an OSS release I'd
generally be open, but it would mean a few conditions to be discussed
first. It might be more feasible to start with something more closed.

Best Regards,
Andreas Kleinert

http://www.ar-kleinert.de/index.html
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pavlor 
Re: SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 30-Mar-2014 12:52:57
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@awnakl

5 threads about 1 topic?

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NutsAboutAmiga 
Re: SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 30-Mar-2014 14:22:45
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@pavlor

+1 Like

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_Steve_ 
Re: SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 30-Mar-2014 14:48:45
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@pavlor

I've left it as just this one thread as there was no need to have the same topic in all areas (one for each system in the development list).

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scabit 
Re: SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 30-Mar-2014 17:03:08
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@awnakl

Andreas....interesting to hear. SuperView5 was well written, it works on AmigaOS1 via Petunia with no changes. I have not tried it with OS4.1 update 6.....but last time I tested it a couple of years ago it worked as-is out of the box. Yes, I am one of your registered users from the late 90s who purchsed the upgrades!
I think your best bet is some sort of bounty the way Odyssey and Dopus5 were released. Those were very necessary products for OS4.1 so I wouldn;t expect as much money as those bounties raised....but it might give you an idea of what you could possibly get for your source code.
Also, why don't you give everyone here a short description of what superview 5 does? I could try, but I'm sure I cannot do the program justice in my description.

Just a paragraph that gives some facts about it might percolate some interest.....

Scott

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broadblues 
Re: SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 30-Mar-2014 18:10:32
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@scabit

I tried it recently but it died badly. Might have been the wrong version or something.

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itix 
Re: SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 30-Mar-2014 19:28:38
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You all can forget about Amiga versions. There is fierce competition in Windows market and to keep even free software alive it must be updated regularly. It doesnt leave any room for Amiga development no matter what.

And it does not end at programming. You have to market it so you need good website. UI could be more attractive, too. I noticed it is using default project icon and apparently UI is not font sensitive. It clearly has weak points which should be fixed. And propably get it ported to Linux...

Not easy project, really.

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serk118 
Re: SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 31-Mar-2014 11:04:27
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@awnakl

How much?

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Dwyloc 
Re: SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 31-Mar-2014 17:46:15
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@itix

Quote:

itix wrote:
You all can forget about Amiga versions. There is fierce competition in Windows market and to keep even free software alive it must be updated regularly. It doesnt leave any room for Amiga development no matter what.


Maybe the sources could be and licensing could be split with all the Amiga code and Amiga like OS's being released for one together and the more modern .NET PC code being sold separately to a different partly as I expect most Amiga users would not be interested in the PC ports and Most Windows users would not be interested in the Amiga an Amiga release.

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serk118 
Re: SView5 / Source Code
Posted on 1-Apr-2014 9:11:19
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@Dwyloc

Quote:

Dwyloc wrote:

Maybe the sources could be and licensing could be split with all the Amiga code and Amiga like OS's .


Thats the one, so whats the asking price for amiga only sourcecode?

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