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Zylesea 
MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 7-Jun-2014 21:58:37
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MUI 3.9 (beta) has been released for AmigaOS 68k.

Read more: http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2014-06-00013-EN.html

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Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 7-Jun-2014 23:11:21
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@Zylesea

Tried updating to 3.9 using the installer and it causes a guru (Line 1111 emulator error) at the moment. Will try to find the reason.

The only file which I did not copy was crawling.mcc which was an older version. Will try copying the older version that came with MUI 3.9

Last edited by Ancalimon on 07-Jun-2014 at 11:20 PM.

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matthey 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 7-Jun-2014 23:36:46
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Tried updating to 3.9 using the installer and it causes a guru (Line 1111 emulator error) at the moment. Will try to find the reason.


Line F (%1111=0xf) is usually an FPU instruction trap without an FPU.

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Ancalimon 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 7-Jun-2014 23:53:54
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@matthey

Using a blizzard 060 with a fpu. Can't launch anything mui related.

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matthey 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 1:51:00
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Ancalimon wrote:
Using a blizzard 060 with a fpu. Can't launch anything mui related.


If you have a working FPU in your 68060 and the 68060.library is installed (by SetPatch), then you do have problems. This is most likely the PC (CPU program counter) getting lost from bad or corrupt code. You can get rid of any add-on MUI libraries and try again. This usually involves deleting (or renaming for temp testing purposes) the whole MUI directory and installing a fresh version. If you still have problems, remove all hacks and go back to a standard AmigaOS. If you still have problems, it could be hard drive or hardware related.

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itix 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 6:28:46
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@matthey

If MUI programs dont start at all then removing all 3rd party custom classes is not help. They are loaded only on demand and clearly MUI 3.9 is crashing before this happen.

To me this look like there is problem in MUI 3.9 release and I would not reformat AmigaOS partition at this moment.

Last edited by itix on 08-Jun-2014 at 06:30 AM.
Last edited by itix on 08-Jun-2014 at 06:29 AM.

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matthey 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 7:51:16
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itix wrote:
If MUI programs dont start at all then removing all 3rd party custom classes is not help. They are loaded only on demand and clearly MUI 3.9 is crashing before this happen..


I was under the impression that MUI failed when programs using MUI were executed. If this is the case, then 3rd party libraries (or old MUI 3.8 libraries that the installer failed to delete) could be causing problems.

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To me this look like there is problem in MUI 3.9 release and I would not reformat AmigaOS partition at this moment.


Reformatting the AmigaOS would be an overreaction but removing (or renaming) the old MUI and doing a fresh install without all the add-ons is what I would do. That and watch the web site for an MUI 3.9 update ;).

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pavlor 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 8:01:16
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@Zylesea

That is really unexpected! However, until any interesting software requires it, I will stay with stable 3.8 release.

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itix 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 8:46:41
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@matthey

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I was under the impression that MUI failed when programs using MUI were executed. If this is the case, then 3rd party libraries (or old MUI 3.8 libraries that the installer failed to delete) could be causing problems.


3rd party libraries are not loaded automatically. It is not even necessary to delete old MUI 3.8 libraries because if MUI 3.9 is not using them they are never executed.

Just rollback to MUI 3.8 until problem is fixed. Dont try anything dramatic because it is just beta.

Last edited by itix on 08-Jun-2014 at 09:07 AM.

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Ancalimon 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 10:35:26
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@itix

I forgot to backup my old 3.8 drawer. I simply deleted its contents and reinstalled MUI 3.8.

Anyone successfully using 3.9?

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x303 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 15:33:03
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@Ancalimon

Well, it works in winuae, but not on my a1200 blizzppc 060.
Then I get:

WORD READ from FFFFFFCA (INST) PC: FFFFFFCA
USP : 76DC50DC SR: 0000 (U0)(-)(-) TCB: 76DB5508
Data: 00029000 00000008 00029000 00000000 00000000 76EBBE70 7648BB88 76D9B134
Addr: 76DC5070 76DC50C8 76DB5508 76DDC8F8 76E6D3E4 76DC5298 00000000 761F9F28
Stck: 76DDCA6E 76DC53D8 76EBA640 00000000 76EBBE70 00000000 76D9B134 76DE99DC
Stck: 76EBBE8C 76EBBE8C 760003E0 00000000 76DC5398 76EBC550 76D9AF04 76EBC550
Name: "NewStuff"

MuGuardianAngel hit! Bad program!
08-Jun-14 17:06:15
AllocMem/AllocVec called from interrupt or supervisor mode.
PC : 762dbbdc USP: 761f9dd4 ( )( ) Name: ????
Data: 00000076 00000001 763699ec 7636a24c 00000000 76ebbe70 7648bb88 00000002
Addr: 76dc55f5 763699f5 761f9e1c 761f9e14 761f9f2a 761f2da4 SysBase --------
Stck: 80000002 76db5508 763699ec 80000002 76db5508 763699ec 7636a24c 00000000
Stck: 76ebbe70 7648bb88 00000002 76dc55f5 763699f5 761f9e1c 761f9e14 761f9f2a
PC-8: fd4e42ad 015842ad 015c4e75 48e7fffe 48e7e000 2c6d07d0 70767201 4eaefd54
PC *: 4a806700 00fc2840 2c6d07e0 222d0154 243c0000 03ed4eae ffe22880 6614222d
MuGuardianAngel hit! Bad program!







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OlafS25 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 15:42:31
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@Zylesea

I have integrated it in Aros Vision. Wildfire works with both Zune and 3.8 but does not start with 3.9

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Templario 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 19:58:12
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@Zylesea

And the key where buy it? for Amiga OS3.9

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Zylesea 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 20:19:57
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@Templario

Quote:

Templario wrote:
@Zylesea

And the key where buy it? for Amiga OS3.9


http://www.sasg.com/cgi-sasg/order_info?app=MUI

I think it takes some time, but still gets processed. Probably speed of processing depends on whether Stefan is at home or abroad with his mountainbike to travel specalular routes - currently he bikes south america - www.alpenzorro.de (German) - I guess he'll stay on the road for a couple of moths still. He started im mid April and the tour is scheduled for about 10.000-15.000km - mountainbike route, not road bike route. Hence i guess no MUI registrations till Christmas or so.

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lionstorm 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 22:08:41
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@Ancalimon

snoopdos might help to locate the problem

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x303 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 8-Jun-2014 23:29:21
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From: Amsterdam

@OlafS25

Looks like Wildfire is hardcoded to use 3.8. The new sub libs *do* work with wf, except for muimaster.

Edit: looks like there's nothing wrong with Wildfire, it runs perfectly with the new version of mui on my normal winuae setup.


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Templario 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 10-Jun-2014 9:06:39
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@Zylesea

But the site is abandoned and the transactions are slow?

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OlafS25 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 11-Jun-2014 10:57:10
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@Templario

I got answer from Stefan Stuntz last weekend

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Deniil715 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 11-Jun-2014 12:40:16
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From: Sweden

@Ancalimon

It could be your old settings. Try (re)moving/renaming ENVARC:mui before starting any MUI program.

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itix 
Re: MUI 3.9 (beta) for AmigaOS 68k out now
Posted on 11-Jun-2014 14:57:06
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From: Freedom world

@Deniil715

No need to. MUI 3.8 settings are compatible with MUI 3.9.

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