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Cass 
PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 7-Sep-2014 14:12:45
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It`s been a few months since I last used it with no problems, but yesterday wouldn`t even start!
I have PartitionWizard 53.2 (17/07/2008), and tried to run it on SamFlex OS4 with latest updates. Are there any known changes made to the system lately that broke PartitionWizard (the executable itself, is the same that run fine months ago)?

I tried to boot with older kickstart modules ( namely elf.library.kmod, kernel, massstorage.usbfd, dos.library.kmod, each tried separately ) with no luck.

I want to check my volumes after seeing some read errors. All volumes are DOS/07, never changed.
If the system utility is broken, what other program took its place?

P.S. It`s a straightforward question regarding PartitionWizard and DOS/07 volumes as on topic, please don`t change subject (reformating, other file systems etc) if you don`t have an idea.

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Re: PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 7-Sep-2014 14:51:24
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@Cass

I just tested on my AmigaOne XE which is updated and PW loads up fine. (Same version.) So it looks it could be a SamFlex problem. Or your system has somehow created a glitch.

What about other apps that work on the device level such as Media Toolbox? Does that still work?

At this point I'd check the debug log with C:DumpDebugBuffer and also run Snoopy to see if anything shows up. Or fails.

Also, try running it from the CLI in case it gives an error.

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Re: PartitionWizard Problem
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@Hypex
same here on my X1000, starting from shell I get the message:
invalid resident library
and the snoopy log is:
00001 : Shell Process : o.k. = GetVar("_pchar",0x580D4D18,32,0x00000200) [7uS]
00002 : Shell Process : o.k. = GetVar("_mchar",0x580D4D18,32,0x00000200) [2uS]
00003 : Shell Process : o.k. = GetVar("_pchar",0x580D4D18,32,0x00000200) [2uS]
00004 : Shell Process : o.k. = GetVar("_mchar",0x580D4D18,32,0x00000200) [2uS]
00005 : Shell Process : FAIL = FindSegment("PartitionWizard",0x00000000,USER) [3uS]
00006 : Shell Process : FAIL = FindSegment("PartitionWizard",0x00000000,SYSTEM) [1uS]
00007 : Shell Process : CurrentDir("Utilities/")
00008 : Shell Process : o.k. = Lock("PartitionWizard",SHARED) [54uS]
00009 : Shell Process : o.k. = ExamineObject(0x580D4CA8) [16uS]
00010 : ENV/env-handler 52.2 : FAIL = Lock("ENVARC:ELF.LazyBinding",SHARED) [18uS]
00011 : Shell Process : o.k. = LoadSeg("PartitionWizard") = [0x1695FE65] [1143uS]
00012 : Shell Process : o.k. = Lock("PartitionWizard",SHARED) [15uS]
00013 : Shell Process : DIR = ParentDir("PartitionWizard") [6uS]
00014 : Shell Process : CurrentDir("Utilities/")
00015 : PartitionWizard : o.k. = Open("CONSOLE:",OLD) = [0x17038D30] [65uS]
00016 : PartitionWizard : o.k. = IsInteractive("CONSOLE:")
00017 : PartitionWizard : 0 = FindSegmentStackSize("PartitionWizard") [71uS]
00018 : PartitionWizard : -----> RunCommand(0x1695FE65 "PartitionWizard",,"",1)
00019 : PartitionWizard : 0 = FindSegmentStackSize("PartitionWizard") [1uS]
00020 : ENV/env-handler 52.2 : FAIL = Lock("ENVARC:ELF.LazyBinding",SHARED) [19uS]
00021 : PartitionWizard : FAIL = GetVar("ELF.LazyBinding",0x57E54AB8,29,0x00000000) [138uS]
00022 : PartitionWizard : ----- RunCommand(0x1695FE65 "PartitionWizard",,"",1) = -1 [0xFFFFFFFF] [15737uS]
00023 : Shell Process : o.k. = SetMode("*",[LINE]) [268uS]
00024 : Shell Process : FAIL = GetVar("_Title",0x5D22780C,256,0x00000200) [5uS]
00025 : Shell Process : FAIL = GetVar("Echo",0x580D4D38,32,0x00000200) [3uS]
00026 : Shell Process : FAIL = GetVar("OldRedirect",0x580D4D38,32,0x00000200) [3uS]
00027 : Shell Process : FAIL = GetVar("KeepDoubleQuotes",0x580D4D38,32,0x00000200) [3uS]
00028 : Shell Process : FAIL = GetVar("Interactive",0x580D4D38,32,0x00000200) [3uS]

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Lazi 
Re: PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 7-Sep-2014 18:27:12
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@pvanni

It is weird. I have the same problem. There was a filesystem problem on the sys: partition which is solved by copy-reformat-copy. AFAIK after then I can't start PW. I thought that it is affected by the broken fs, and don't wanted to bother it before a full reinstall. However it seems that it is a common problem.
PW is 53.3 here on a Peg2/latest OS4.

The message is: "Workbench:Utilities/PartitionWizard: invalid resident library"


Snoopy log is:
Log Generated by; Snoopy 53.32 (14.10.2013)

00003 : WBL : 0 = FindSegmentStackSize("") [8uS]
00004 : WBL : o.k. = [exec] OpenLibrary("workbench.library",0) [41uS]
00005 : WBL : CurrentDir("Utilities")
00006 : WBL : o.k. = Lock("PartitionWizard",SHARED) [224uS]
00007 : WBL : o.k. = Examine("PartitionWizard") [18uS]
00008 : ENV/env-handler 52.2 : FAIL = Lock("ENVARC:ELF.LazyBinding",SHARED) [69uS]
00009 : WBL : o.k. = LoadSeg("PartitionWizard") = [0x18384CED] [10266uS]
00010 : WBL : o.k. = Lock("PartitionWizard",SHARED) [61uS]
00011 : WBL : DIR = ParentDir("PartitionWizard") [9uS]
00012 : WBL : CurrentDir("")
00013 : WBL : 0 = FindSegmentStackSize("PartitionWizard") [458uS]
00014 : PartitionWizard : 0 = FindSegmentStackSize("PartitionWizard") [4uS]
00015 : ENV/env-handler 52.2 : FAIL = Lock("ENVARC:ELF.LazyBinding",SHARED) [74uS]

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Lazi 
Re: PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 8-Sep-2014 7:18:42
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Just tried on my other machine, and it seems that PW stopped to work on here too.
It is a mikroA1, latest OS4. There was not any problem before here unlike that on my other machine as can be read in the previous post.


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Re: PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 8-Sep-2014 8:49:36
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@Lazi

What version of dos.library are you guys running?

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Re: PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 8-Sep-2014 12:23:18
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@Lazi

[Off-Topic]
Did you see my reply about one of your comment on os4depot, days ago... ?
[/Off-Topic]

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Lazi 
Re: PartitionWizard Problem
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@tonyw

dos.library 53.156 (2014.06.30.)

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Lazi 
Re: PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 8-Sep-2014 15:04:24
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@zzd10h

Yes, and just put an answer. (Short: that was not your fault :)

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Hypex 
Re: PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 8-Sep-2014 15:21:59
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@pvanni

Yeah, PW on X1000 has been broken for some time, and AFAIK has never worked on that platform. A fix is indefinite.

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Cass 
Re: PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 8-Sep-2014 19:35:09
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@tonyw

As I`ve already written, it`s OS4.1.6 with latest updates, so it`s dos 53.156 (30/06/2014)

@Hypex
It`s a Sam440Flex, are there any known common problems between the platforms?

The only vague clues found regarding the problem were about network interference -tried to start with no network, without any success-, and an X1000 problem with the same symptoms but neither case provides a plausable explanation for my HW/SW...

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Re: PartitionWizard Problem
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@Cass

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As I`ve already written


This is a developer thing. There doesn't seem to be a table with versions listed to update classes. And online updates makes this harder. So it's easiest for them to just specify versions of components.

Quote:
It`s a Sam440Flex


I'm not aware of any common problems. That network error was strange, but perhaps what is stranger is the response that says disabling the network isn't strange. What about the network killing off MTB? That wasn't strange!?

Were you able to get a Snoopy log?

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@Cass

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The only vague clues found regarding the problem were about network interference -tried to start with no network,


Well it does not know there is any network connected unless it try's first.

If don't like it to automaticly try to connect to the network, you can comment out network-startup script from startup-sequence.

The error people are seeing might have some thing to do with using Network Wizard, you should never use that program, every time you run that program you get a new network config script, the result is that you might have.

"Network Interface 1" configured to use same physical network card as "Network Interface 2", the result is that one of this to configuration will fail.

You need to delete the "network interface" scripts you do not need from devs: some where.

Next time use the "Internet" prefs program, in sys:prefs, never ever use Network wizard.

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and an X1000 problem with the same symptoms but neither case provides a plausable explanation for my HW/SW...


I clicked on the link, and I see its about PartitionWizard, and yes PartitionWizard is not working anymore on X1000, you just confirmed not working on Sam440, so in other words PartitionWizard is not working on any hardware.

Quote:
my HW/SW...


So if its not hardware issue then it most be software issue.

Most likely some library / classes that is not of right version, and so the PartitionWizard can't do what it was intended to do, the software is broken.

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Re: PartitionWizard Problem
Posted on 11-Sep-2014 15:28:26
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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The error people are seeing might have some thing to do with using Network Wizard, you should never use that program, every time you run that program you get a new network config script


That's why? Well if people are naming their connection themselves they should know what's in there so that isn't the Wizard's fault. Whenever I have setup a new connection it always overwrites the old one unless I rename it.

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Next time use the "Internet" prefs program, in sys:prefs, never ever use Network wizard.


Honestly, I don't see what this problem is with the Wizard. I've used it plenty of times. All I see is warnings not to use it and it works fine for me. So have you emailed the OS4 developer team to tell them what's wrong with it so they can fix it?

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I clicked on the link, and I see its about PartitionWizard, and yes PartitionWizard is not working anymore on X1000


Anymore? Anymore? Please tell me when Partition Wizard DID work on the X1000? Before the time of anymore.

Quote:
PartitionWizard is not working on any hardware.


Erm,. and what OS4 machine do you have? And have you tested Partition Wizard OS all OS4 platforms? Your statement is false. It works perfectly fine on my A1-XE.

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@Hypex

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Well if people are naming their connection themselves they should know what's in there so that isn't the Wizard's fault.


If thats the problem, then maybe they should not be allowed to name the "Network interfaces" them self, maybe name should be defined by device driver and unit number. It will efferently solve some confusion and problems.

Anyhow who remembers what they typed in that dialog box after a year or after years. Some people have problem remember what they did last week.

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So have you emailed the OS4 developer team


Well I'm not beta tester, they have the support forum, they should be able to figgier this out. I use Internet Prefs and so I have no problems with this, anymore.

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Please tell me when Partition Wizard DID work on the X1000?


Never.

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It works perfectly fine on my A1-XE


ok so its only works on AmigaONE-XE.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

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If thats the problem, then maybe they should not be allowed to name the "Network interfaces" them self, maybe name should be defined by device driver and unit number.


It is defined by that. The driver at least. Whenever I setup a new connection it gets called ETH3COM. It's easy enough to leave the name as is. Which I do and it overwrites the old one.

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Anyhow who remembers what they typed in that dialog box after a year or after years.


They don't need to remember. They just need to look in NetInterfaces.

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Well I'm not beta tester, they have the support forum, they should be able to figgier this out.


I doubt a developer is going to come across a thread like that for a component he is working on. Best to email them directly I find. Also, that forum needs some work. Or the people on it. I see problems that are unresolved, unanswered by experts or where official developers throw the problem back on the user thus blaming them or discuss something else irrelevant.

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@Hypex

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I doubt a developer is going to come across a thread like that for a component he is working on.


Some developers read forums, some do not.

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where official developers throw the problem back on the user thus blaming them or discuss something else irrelevant.


Well maybe bouse its not bug, its more a user trap or a common mistake that people do, as you are beta tester you can add it to bug tracker as enchantment, I do not have access to the bug tracker system so I can't do it.

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Best to email them directly I find.


Well sure it is, but I'm not going to nag.
Its not so hard to fix the intermiddle issue, if you know what problem is. Sure on the long run this should also be fixed.

Developer using SCRUM category problems, by assign business value & and how hard is implement, then sort the list and work on the problems that gives most in return.

Or the MoSCoW method: M: Most, S: Should, C: Could, W: Wont.

Just becouse some one has problem with does not qualify the problem as some thing that has to be fixed ASAP, it will depend on frequency of issue and how crital the problem is.

I say this some that can easy end up in the "Could" category, and there for have low priory, for me it does not make sense to nag about trivial problems.

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or discuss something else irrelevant.


The problem is that forum is too open, some thing like Bugzilla might have been a lot more useful. Because in "Bugzilla" problems can only be viewed by a group of people or the user that posted the issue.

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Posted on 14-Sep-2014 15:23:23
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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Well maybe bouse its not bug, its more a user trap or a common mistake that people do, as you are beta tester you can add it to bug tracker as enchantment,


In the cases I was thinking it was a bug. Well there was a crash involved in one. So the response was strange. I thought a crash would be serious enough.

But yes, if I can test and confirm a bug, I can report it.

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Well sure it is, but I'm not going to nag.


Oh no, if there is a bug, it should be brought to attention. Besides, it's only a nag if it keeps repeating.

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The problem is that forum is too open, some thing like Bugzilla might have been a lot more useful.


Well there is one in use. The forum is there for the users.

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Posted on 14-Sep-2014 17:12:24
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just for information:
an official os4 bugzilla entry for partition wizard regarding the issues here already is in place as far as i can see.

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Re: PartitionWizard Problem
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Thanks Michael! That makes sense, at last. :)

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