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Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 10:16:50
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 10:30:42
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I don't see how that would be any real selling point other than to the Amiga community. OS4.2 By itself won't give compatibility with older games. If they actually wanted to do that, they could very easily add it to the Virtual Console and not have to bother with OS4 at all, and that would also mean it would work on their existing consoles too.
Anyway, it'll be a long time before nIntendo are actually struggling badly enough to think about doing something as crazy as that! _________________ RobTheNerd.com | InstallerGen | SMBMounter | Atoms-X |
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 11:44:30
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| Ok how about A-Eon talking to Nintendo to get a license to use there motherboards. That way we could get cheap motherboards and Nintendo get some extra revenue from the licenses.
Again most likey to never happen. _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 11:49:02
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 11:58:28
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Em I have just spotted its a co processor so what is the mystery 64 CPU bet its some crappy X86 thing Last edited by g01df1sh on 14-Oct-2014 at 11:59 AM.
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 12:18:42
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Can be? I dont know! probably yes .. we dont know :P The 3 core co processor will be for the wiiu-wii-game cube compatibility
but you have to think that this news can be only a big fake ;)
PS: the WiiU is selling 2,5x times more than the Xbox One
7.000.000 of wii u sold vs 3.000.000 of Xbox One Sony PS4 is on 12.000.000
all the company who had been invested to Xbox One are in crysis right now: Capcom and Cryteck first of all .
Who had been invested on wii u had been recovered their founds or made little extras.
The big problem of wiiu is Japan economical crysis *never in past japan console (ps4) was presented first in world and second in japan was the opposite. and world economical crysis... plus the big wall made by multinational of gaming EA first and Activision second because Nintendo have higher % for every game copy and fixed the game retail prize lower than the other company.
How i know this ? because one of my friend work in activision :P Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 12:28 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 12:26 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 12:25 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 12:21 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 12:20 PM.
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 13:47:01
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Wii U is not selling as good as PS4 or even XBone. It was released a year earlier than XBone or PS4, that's why there are more units sold than XBox One. It's also very likely that Nintendo will abandon PowerPC in the next console, since IBM is intent on selling it's semi business and foundries. I would guess it will be either a x86 or ARM CPU. _________________
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 14:21:19
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2.2Ghz would be too slow for x86. Or X64. Or, whatever.
But having a PoweerPC as a co-processor subordanite to another? Well that's strange, why not just run an emulator on the 8 core? PPC code is simple, I think even a run-time PPC to x86 translator would be possible, using a 64KB (16-bit op code) lookup table.
It's also like a C128 booting a Z80 and having the 6510 on the side.
Or an OS-4-on-a-card running on a PC. |
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 14:23:17
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sometime number have to be compared by before ... and the wonderful of the number they return like a loop
http://cdn.bgr.com/2013/11/console-sales-predictions-2013.png?w=624&h=726
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 14:27:00
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Those are sales at launch.... Wii U sales have fallen considerably since. _________________
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 14:29:32
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nope :P
Check the image 2:
http://www.gamempire.it/news/ps4-vs-xbox-one-vs-wii-u-ecco-i-dati-delle-vendite-mensili-e-totali-138071?gallery=138072&image=2
Note : i have only (dont write the 8 and 16 bit for space) dreamcast,xbox, Xbox 360, Ps2, Ps3, Ps4, Game Cube , Wii , Wii u and 3ds 2 Call me expert about :P _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 14:31:06
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| Wii u dont sell more than wii ... because ? simple.. Normal people (not hard gamers) dont change their console after one generation but after two
PS2 sell better than ps3 ... ps4 will sell better than ps3 Xbox sell worst ... 360 sell good ... xbox one will sell worst Game cube sell worst , Wii sell great .. wiiU will sell worst
Nintendo know this ... this why thay dont spend really much in this new generation ... many casual gamers will stay with their old wii
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 16:55:19
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| Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but if the secret to Nintendo's success was running 20 year old Amiga games (?! surely SNES/NES games are more their audience), wouldn't it be easier to just port UAE, rather than AmigaOS on a games console?
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 17:08:31
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| Looks like you may be able to run AOS4.1 on the 8 core and 3.1 in UAE on the 3 core at the same time.
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 17:54:32
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If it supported all the hardware it would be a front door for unlicensed games and either way it would be a back door for malicious activity. |
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 20:08:25
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| I have been following Wii U with lot of interest as I both like Nintendo, own Wii U, and think its the best machine of this generation, not because of its horsepower (which it somewhat lacks, although in my opinion not as badly as previous generations did), but because of it innovative hardware (gamepad and wiimote).
I have found that wikipedia Wii U is quite good place to look for Wii U sales, from "Sales" - part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U
And yes, Wii U doesnt do as bad as many think. It did start quite humbly, but now that they have released some hit games like Super Mario 3D world, Donkey Kong and latest, Super Mario Kart 8, they have got their sales quite much up, and I am hoping more third party developers would jump aboard encouraged by the sales, since right now Wii U is pretty much on Nintendos own games, although it has quite good Indie coverage, even Anotehr World 25th anniversary there, and also excellent retro game releases, naturally, since they themselves have the best ones under their own belt.
Wii U does have some stupid things in it, starting from the naming which im pretty sure have hindered the sales, since even I was first about buy Mini Wii, thinking I was getting some cheaper cropped down Wii U before i realised it was actually a wii, and i can easily see how same people who buy crappy versions of disney movies released at same time for half the price with the actual hit titles, would as well be buying Wii instead of Wii U thinking its the same but much cheaper.
Also what I really hate is that Netflix is like made for Wii Us gamepad, and yet they dummily dont support different user profiles like every other platform do.
Similarly I just cant understand why oh why cant they put at least a DVD-movie player software to Wii U, or even sell it at their eshop, for right now, if my daughter wants to watch netflix, or we want to watch DVD/Blu-Ray, PS3 gets started, otherwise I might have even forgot about the whole machine. How does that serve nintendo that they keep me going to their fiercest competitors machine when they could do such a small simple thing to fix it!
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 21:52:37
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It was a rumor. Just speculations, without basis.
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Em I have just spotted its a co processor so what is the mystery 64 CPU bet its some crappy X86 thing |
Crap? Why? Because you hate it? Or do you have some TECHNICAL facts for claiming that it's "crap"?
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Can be? I dont know! probably yes .. we dont know :P The 3 core co processor will be for the wiiu-wii-game cube compatibility
but you have to think that this news can be only a big fake ;)
PS: the WiiU is selling 2,5x times more than the Xbox One
7.000.000 of wii u sold vs 3.000.000 of Xbox One Sony PS4 is on 12.000.000
all the company who had been invested to Xbox One are in crysis right now: Capcom and Cryteck first of all .
Who had been invested on wii u had been recovered their founds or made little extras.
The big problem of wiiu is Japan economical crysis *never in past japan console (ps4) was presented first in world and second in japan was the opposite. and world economical crysis... plus the big wall made by multinational of gaming EA first and Activision second because Nintendo have higher % for every game copy and fixed the game retail prize lower than the other company.
How i know this ? because one of my friend work in activision :P |
The PS4 with the x64 "crap" sold almost the double of Wii U. Alone...
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2.2Ghz would be too slow for x86. Or X64. Or, whatever. |
Actually the x64s used by PS4 and XboxOne are < 2Ghz CPUs. Quote:
But having a PoweerPC as a co-processor subordanite to another? Well that's strange, why not just run an emulator on the 8 core? PPC code is simple, I think even a run-time PPC to x86 translator would be possible, using a 64KB (16-bit op code) lookup table.
It's also like a C128 booting a Z80 and having the 6510 on the side.
Or an OS-4-on-a-card running on a PC. |
You can already do it, without cards, with WinUAE.
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Let me elaborate. So, buying something makes you an expert, right? Is it a new method to acquire knowledge without studying?
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Wii u dont sell more than wii ... because ? simple.. Normal people (not hard gamers) dont change their console after one generation but after two
PS2 sell better than ps3 ... ps4 will sell better than ps3 Xbox sell worst ... 360 sell good ... xbox one will sell worst Game cube sell worst , Wii sell great .. wiiU will sell worst |
And what about the PS1? If people changes the console after one generation, why PS2 sold more than PS1? Was PS1 a flop? I don't recall such thing... Quote:
Nintendo know this ... this why thay dont spend really much in this new generation ... many casual gamers will stay with their old wii |
The Nintendo history speaks by herself: she always pumped A LOT of innovation, starting from her first console. Only after the GameCube she became "very conservative" (read: recycle the existing hardware, with very few updates), because the GC was a flop; with so few GC sold, she had not that money to spend on R&D to develop the GC successor. |
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 14-Oct-2014 22:52:10
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For sure im mutch more expert compared you in real hardware , in real software and in all platform ... because me had , have and test everything ... you only continue here and there to get pooh on all the initiative and machine made after amiga 500 (the only amiga that you had been see and not was your) this machine that you blame was made by: amiga tecnology, eyetech , bplan, acube , aeon ... (apple before x86) and all the software made by every one from 1994 to today . Now please stop your attack my post only because im a mod on another site where you had been pacified or i will ask the guys here to do what i did to you there...
This is the second time you did this things and for the second time i say: the other people for sure are not interested in your problems in other nation plus in your problems with some developer and problems with some mods and problems with some company...
PS: PS1, Sega Saturn and Nintendo 64 all together dont sell like the ps2... before the second generation the numbers was many many smaller than today ... study mr cdimauro and not say only things that only you understand... PS2: The much sell console in the world continue be Nintendo from 198x from Nes to portable NDS sold 150.000.000 units , and 3DS right now is over 90.000.000 plus nintendo sell games and peluches and gadgets plus cartoons and have royality for movies... Nintendo will not close tomorrow because wii u dont sell dont worry "mr i know everything" Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 11:35 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 11:05 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 11:03 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 11:03 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 11:02 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 11:01 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 10:58 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 10:56 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 14-Oct-2014 at 10:53 PM.
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 15-Oct-2014 1:14:18
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| @g01df1sh Why would they go through that trouble if they could just use a simple emulator for the games? Since the wii u already lacks the amiga custom chipset everything would still have to be run through a emulator and most games are not even OS friendly. It would make absolutely zero sense to port AmigaOS. It is designed around mouse and keyboard and will add nothing but extra bloat that will use up memory.
And even if they brought Amiga games to their consoles it would still not generate much sales. |
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Re: Nintendo and Amiga OS Posted on 15-Oct-2014 1:16:15
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g01df1sh wrote: Ok how about A-Eon talking to Nintendo to get a license to use there motherboards. That way we could get cheap motherboards and Nintendo get some extra revenue from the licenses.
Again most likey to never happen. |
Again pretty naive and makes no sense for them. How would a few thousand sales at best generate any significant income for them?? |
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